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No licenses for illegals (License scam was fueled by 9/11 laws)
Newark Star Ledger ^ | 07.19.05 | Brian donohue & Tom Feeney

Posted on 08/01/2005 9:58:22 PM PDT by Coleus

Zeneida Rivera's arrest has left a lot of illegal immigrants in a jam. They had counted on her to help them get driver's licenses from Tennessee, where an immigrant does not need to prove he is in this country legally, just claim to be living in Tennessee. Rivera, who sits in a Knoxville prison, was charged by federal authorities with ferrying illegal immigrants from New Jersey and New York to Tennessee to get licenses.

We understand why undocumented immigrants would pay up to $1,000 for a two-day trip to Tennessee to get a license. What we don't understand is why Tennessee looks the other way.

Only a few states take this loose approach to licenses, but more are expected to do so in the next few years. A new federal law requires states to issues driver's licenses only to those who can prove they're here legally. That same law allows states to offer a second-tier license, a driving certificate. For that, a driver must certify that he lives in a state and produce some form of identification -- a passport, a birth certificate, a consular ID card. Students on visas, business people in the country for a limited time and those fleeing political persecution are likely applicants. And so are illegals.

New Jersey has some of the tightest regulations for obtaining a driver's license, but at least one lawmaker -- Assemblyman Brian Stack (D-Hudson) -- is thinking about easing those requirements.

Backers of the idea say that regardless of a person's immigration status, it's better to have a motorist who has passed both a written and road test. That does have a certain appeal.

Meeting yesterday in Des Moines, Iowa, the nation's governors had another take on the issue. They warned that the new federal law will create long lines

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: New Jersey; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; driverslicense; driverslicenses; illegalaliens; illegalimmigrants; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; immigrationlist; invasionusa; license; licensescam

1 posted on 08/01/2005 9:58:22 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus
Only a few states take this loose approach to licenses, but more are expected to do so in the next few years. A new federal law requires states to issues driver's licenses only to those who can prove they're here legally. That same law allows states to offer a second-tier license, a driving certificate. For that, a driver must certify that he lives in a state and produce some form of identification -- a passport, a birth certificate, a consular ID card. Students on visas, business people in the country for a limited time and those fleeing political persecution are likely applicants. And so are illegals.

So, it looks like the "Real ID" is a sham.

2 posted on 08/01/2005 10:33:21 PM PDT by MRMEAN (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of congress; but I repeat myself. - Mark Tw)
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Look for Corzine to take up the case for eliminating all requirements for obtaining a drivers' license.


3 posted on 08/02/2005 4:47:55 AM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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"So, it looks like the "Real ID" is a sham."

The "Real ID" is just an internal passport for American Citizens designed by an ex-KGB general and an ex-stasi general in the employ of Homeland security.


4 posted on 08/02/2005 5:12:59 AM PDT by dljordan
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So, it looks like the "Real ID" is a sham. >>>

you mean the National ID card program is a sham?

yes, it sure is...Big brother is watching us while our borders are open and free to pass by anyone.


5 posted on 08/02/2005 10:20:02 AM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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NOT TENNESSEE'S FAULT - they passed a law to eliminate this problem, and a Federal Judge handed down an injunction because he said it was "discriminatory".

Here is the Time line of driver's license laws

May 2001: Former Gov. Don Sundquist signs driver's license law eliminating requirements for a Social Security number to get either a Tennessee license or ID.

May 2003: State bans use of Mexican consulate-issued card called ''matricula consular'' in applying for driver's licenses.

May 29, 2004: New driver's license law goes partially into effect, requiring either proof of citizenship or legal permanent immigration status to get a driver's license.

July 1, 2004: State begins to issue driving certificates.

July 12, 2004: Federal lawsuit filed seeking to overturn license law. Shortly thereafter, an injunction was handed down preventing Tennessee from applying the new law.

There was a post about 6 months ago that reported on the Judge's decision, but I can't find it at the moment.


6 posted on 08/02/2005 1:08:48 PM PDT by Mack the knife
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Theres a very logical solution to the problem of illegal immigrants and drivers lisences:
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS: GET OUT OF OUR COUNTRY AND STAY OUT! GET OUT OF OUR COUNTRY AND STAY OUT! GET OUT OF OUR COUNTRY AND STAY OUT!

What part of GET OUT OF OUR COUNTRY AND STAY OUT don't you understand? Well, let me explain it to you: GET OUT OF OUR COUNTRY AND STAY OUT!

P.S. GET OUT OF OUR COUNTRY AND STAY OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!


7 posted on 08/02/2005 4:25:41 PM PDT by Ace Backwords
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