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Steroids headed for troops in Iraq seized
AP ^ | VICTOR L. SIMPSON

Posted on 08/01/2005 2:54:19 PM PDT by jmc1969

Italian police seized 215,000 doses of prohibited substances as they smashed a ring that supplied steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs to customers around the world, including American soldiers in Iraq, a police official said Monday.

The U.S. military in Iraq had no immediate comment, but the popularity of steroid abuse has long been discussed as American troops and contractors in Iraq work out in gyms set up in bases and even in the mirrored halls of one of Saddam Hussein's former palaces.

Joe Donahue, program director for the Vietnam Vets of America Foundation, who spent 16 months in Iraq - often lifting weights in the Green Zone gyms - said steroids were on offer for those who wanted them.

"I had them offered to me by an Iraqi guy who sure as hell looked like he was using them," Donahue said. "There were guys I'm pretty sure were juicing, but not a lot of them."

He said a pair of Iraqi bodybuilders known casually as "the large brothers" sold steroids and other supplements in the Green Zone building where he worked. "I can say with no equivocation, I was offered steroids,"

Private security contractors told AP that steroid use also is a problem among their employees because the drugs are readily available in Iraq - as easy as buying a soda from the local stores, according to one contractor.

Inside one of Saddam Hussein's former palaces on the sprawling Tikrit base, a mirror-walled gym rivaling many in the West is routinely packed with heaving soldiers pumping iron on bench presses, arm curls and other equipment.

Some soldiers have questioned how some of their more rippling fellow soldiers could have built up such bulk while in a war zone, suggesting that steroid use may have been taking place.

(Excerpt) Read more at contracostatimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: iraq; oif; steroids
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There isn't alot of bad news from Iraq today so the AP had to find something to try to make the troops look bad.
1 posted on 08/01/2005 2:54:20 PM PDT by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

Pretty soon they'll all be doing herion and listening to Jimmy Hendrix....

Oh wait...that was AP reporting during the Vietnam War....

NeverGore :6)


2 posted on 08/01/2005 3:00:40 PM PDT by nevergore (“It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.”)
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Did the London bomber ask to stay in Italy & not be extradited? This may be a bargaining chip thingy...

Boston Globe today: "According to La Repubblica, an Italian newspaper, Hussain said the group had a ''political conviction that it is necessary to give a signal to do something" about Iraq."

3 posted on 08/01/2005 3:03:25 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough (Do you know who your real ISP is?)
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To: jmc1969

performance enhancing drugs vs the drugs used during Vietnam, hmmmm I'll go with steriods ever time.

The main concern is dehydration from them. They would have to add to the water intake of any soldier that might want to go that route.


4 posted on 08/01/2005 3:12:41 PM PDT by SFC Chromey (GO FAST AND SWERVE!)
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In a war zone, doing things to make yourself a larger target is probably not the best survival technique.
5 posted on 08/01/2005 3:12:50 PM PDT by fso301
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Inside one of Saddam Hussein's former palaces on the sprawling Tikrit base, a mirror-walled gym rivaling many in the West is routinely packed with heaving soldiers pumping iron on bench presses, arm curls and other equipment.

Obviously written by a pencil necked geek who couldn't tell his @ss from a gym with both hands and a flashlight...

6 posted on 08/01/2005 3:14:08 PM PDT by LouD
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7 posted on 08/01/2005 3:16:03 PM PDT by oldleft
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There isn't alot of bad news from Iraq today so the AP had to find something to try to make the troops look bad.

You have it exactly right. This is the exact reason stories like this are run. The MSM systematically tries to keep bad news (any possible, or make it up, or rehash old events) on Iraq coming out every day.

8 posted on 08/01/2005 3:16:55 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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So if our soldiers are found to have used performance enhancing drugs does that mean we have to forfeit?
9 posted on 08/01/2005 3:18:30 PM PDT by Moral Hazard ("I believe the children are the future" - Whitney Houston; "Fight the future" - X-files)
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Hear me know and believe me later.


10 posted on 08/01/2005 3:18:42 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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Actually it's an awesome gym! They took one of his old palaces and made it into an MWR (Morale Welfare and Recreation) setup. The room has huge vaulted ceilings, ornate wood trim and carvings and more. It was a brilliant use of that former government building.

I worked out there whenever I wound up in Tikrit and my only complaint was that the gym was too crowded all the time. Sure there were a few guys on the juice, but that's no different than anywhere else in the world.

To put things in perspective, GI's are just regular folks and they get in trouble just like anybody else. I've been around this mans Army for some time and can say without hesitation that in Iraq the troops are very well behaved.

If the AP was trying to imply that steroid abuse is condoned or encouraged by the military he is totally off base. The military takes a very very dim view on ANY kind of illegal drug use. We get the whiz quiz all the time just to make sure.


11 posted on 08/01/2005 3:25:47 PM PDT by soldier143
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To: dead
It was just a matter of time...
12 posted on 08/01/2005 3:27:37 PM PDT by oldleft
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To: fso301

OTOH, building strength and endurance to levels not otherwise attainable might not be a bad idea. Were I in that situation I think I would not be averse to taking a little andro, if not full blown steroids.


13 posted on 08/01/2005 3:28:56 PM PDT by Chuckster (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoset)
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To: soldier143

I hear you. My experience in military gyms was similar - there were a few guys who might have been using 'roids, but it was very much the exception.

My point, however, was that the author clearly didn't know what he was talking about: "bench presses" and "arm curls" are exercises, not pieces of equipment. I'm guessing that author Victor Simpson wouldn't know a weight stack if it jumped up and bit him in the ass...


14 posted on 08/01/2005 3:35:46 PM PDT by LouD
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"So if our soldiers are found to have used performance enhancing drugs does that mean we have to forfeit"

BWAHAHAHA - too funny!


15 posted on 08/01/2005 3:36:21 PM PDT by soldier143
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To: soldier143

Ahhh, I gotcha.


16 posted on 08/01/2005 3:41:38 PM PDT by soldier143
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To: soldier143

this guy Simpson covered the Vatican for many many years...he might have seen some protein drinks or creatine and jumped to the (duh) conclusion...."yeah, they're doping..."

Bet we see it on the next episode of that stupid new show on FX, "Over There"....

would be interested in hearing what you have to say about it.

BTW, WELCOME to FR and thank you for being there for us.

Heroes among us, folks....


17 posted on 08/01/2005 4:24:38 PM PDT by bitt ('We will all soon reap what the ignorant are now sowing.' Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: jmc1969

Last WESTPAC that I did we had several guys get caught using steroids. They are OTC in a lot of Arab countries.


18 posted on 08/01/2005 4:28:45 PM PDT by wingnutx (Seabees Can Do!)
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To: soldier143

Get a gig supporting SF and you will always have a great, but less crowded, gym to work out in :D


19 posted on 08/01/2005 4:32:10 PM PDT by wingnutx (Seabees Can Do!)
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I wonder if juicing while on Lariam would increase the side effects?


20 posted on 08/01/2005 4:41:47 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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