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THE STATE DEPARTMENT PLOT THICKENS (Podhoretz on new Time article)
NRO Corner ^ | 7/31/05 | John Podhoretz

Posted on 07/31/2005 8:49:58 AM PDT by Republican Red

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To: MizSterious

Sometimes when I read this stuff, , especially late at night, it occurs to me that the entire government could fall.


41 posted on 07/31/2005 10:01:22 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Wuli
I have been pointing to Colin Powell as the leaker since July 13th

Nah. The leaker is Valerie Plame/Joe Wilson. She has been tight with a group of leftie newsettes forever. It could have been stuff she was leaking "off the record." Joe has been a loudmouth forever, and in fact "outed" his old lady a long time before this particular brouhaha.

Fun story.

42 posted on 07/31/2005 10:01:27 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk
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To: Howlin
Knowledgeable insiders have long characterized Powell’s meteoric rise from colonel to Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff as based on exceptional skills at bureaucratic infighting and deft wielding of the press leak stiletto.

Hate to burst your bubble, but people at the top in DC all excel at this. If they didn't they wouldn't survive.

43 posted on 07/31/2005 10:02:18 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Howlin

The most interesting fact here is that the special prosecutor has been on this ivestigation for two years. The media, in its hubris, sought to solve it in one week. That's very unlikely.


44 posted on 07/31/2005 10:02:53 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Howlin

Sometimes, I feel the same sort of chill.

I've also heard from folks who served with Powell that he would stab someone in the back in a heartbeat if it meant getting ahead, but then, maybe that's true more often than we think.


45 posted on 07/31/2005 10:04:53 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: Lancey Howard
Of course, so has the State Department.

Yes, but now Condi is at State and she arrived with a great big, industrial sized broom :o)

46 posted on 07/31/2005 10:06:44 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Republican Red
On Meet The Press this morning the the story was being talked about by reporters with more "we really don't know yet" comments. That is far different from Rove outed a covert agent.

Sounds like the MSM is getting ready to deep-six the Rove/Plame story now that the facts are not panning out quite like the Libs hoped.

47 posted on 07/31/2005 10:07:04 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: MizSterious
True. I was trying to point out that it is THEIR story, not real news like they should be out hunting for. I hope it gets a few more of them fired and discredited like Rathergate did.
48 posted on 07/31/2005 10:07:37 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: AndyJackson

You're not busting my bubble; he's just quit an accomplished leaker and backbiter, which, needless to say, the press never reports.

He's not quite as "clean" as he or the MSM protrays himself/him.


49 posted on 07/31/2005 10:07:39 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: BonnieJ
Would anyone in the media go to jail to protect Colin Powell?

No.

No one in the media would go to jail to protect any Republican. The information had to come from someone the MSM likes - either a fellow reporter, a dem CIA agent, or a dem who's still in the administration.

Hell would freeze over before any liberal would go to jail for a Republican - they would expose the guy themselves if he was one of us.

50 posted on 07/31/2005 10:09:23 AM PDT by GOPJ (A person who will lie for you, will lie against you.)
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To: BonnieJ
Would anyone in the media go to jail to protect Colin Powell?

No.

No one in the media would go to jail to protect any Republican. The information had to come from someone the MSM likes - either a fellow reporter, a dem CIA agent, or a dem who's still in the administration.

Hell would freeze over before any liberal would go to jail for a Republican - they would expose the guy themselves if he was one of us.

51 posted on 07/31/2005 10:09:33 AM PDT by GOPJ (A person who will lie for you, will lie against you.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
Nah. The leaker is Valerie Plame/Joe Wilson. She has been tight with a group of leftie newsettes forever. It could have been stuff she was leaking "off the record." Joe has been a loudmouth forever, and in fact "outed" his old lady a long time before this particular brouhaha.

I tend to agree. Of course, with the numerous possibilities now apparent, it's hard to be sure. But why would Powell or Armitage have leaked? To harm GWB by outing Plame, exposing Wilson as lightweight? Not likely, IMO. More likely Wilson and/or Plame letting it slip into their conversations with journalists trying to build attention in the importance of his trip. Remember, he was in the process of completely shifting his field from being supportive of the need to take out Saddam to the view that Saddam was doing nothing to acquire nuke capabilities and posed no threat.

52 posted on 07/31/2005 10:13:24 AM PDT by n-tres-ted (Remember November!)
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To: Howlin
I said that weeks ago and got my head handed to me on the proverbial platter

And what else is new :0)

53 posted on 07/31/2005 10:17:12 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: Republican Red; MJY1288

And David Corn; you can add him to the mix of people Joe Wilson talked to BEFORE her name came out.


54 posted on 07/31/2005 10:18:11 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: GOPJ
No one in the media would go to jail to protect any Republican. The information had to come from someone the MSM likes - either a fellow reporter, a dem CIA agent, or a dem who's still in the administration.

Though I agree with you they would not go to jail for a Republican

But here's a thought .. if they out Powell .. then they start to out the rest who are behind this set up .. and IMO, this was a set up

Powell could very well be a part of the puzzle .. but he is not the only part .. there are MANY pieces to it

This was a group of people that cooked up this scheme

55 posted on 07/31/2005 10:24:00 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: BonnieJ

I think Powell is the person who leaked to Novak. Since Miller never wrote an article about this, I'm really curious to find out why Fitgerald is interested in her. At any rate there is nothing to suggest she is protecting the same source Cooper was protecting. She might be sitting in jail to protect wilson or Plame for all we know.


56 posted on 07/31/2005 10:24:28 AM PDT by csmusaret (Urban Sprawl is an oxymoron)
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To: csmusaret; Howlin
Since Miller never wrote an article about this, I'm really curious to find out why Fitgerald is interested in her

Just because she didn't write about this story .. doesn't mean she doesn't have any notes on the story

57 posted on 07/31/2005 10:27:44 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: Mo1

I know, but we don't know what direction she was headed. Had she published we would have known what line of investigation she took. That in turn could lead to clues about who she is protecting.


58 posted on 07/31/2005 10:36:03 AM PDT by csmusaret (Urban Sprawl is an oxymoron)
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To: Republican Red

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59 posted on 07/31/2005 10:41:43 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Mo1; csmusaret; Howlin

I think that Fitzgerald is going after illegal State Department (or CIA) leaks. Miller tipped off a terror mosque to an impending federal raid and ruined one of Fitzgerald's other investigations. He wants to know how Miller got her info, and maybe he believes that the sources for the Plame info and the terror mosque info are one and the same.


60 posted on 07/31/2005 10:42:30 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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