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To: kublia khan
.. By the way before you start Suspected bombers are always shot in the head in general and the left eye if possible ..

Nonsense..
Televised accounts of Israeli forces apprehending and assisting bombers in disarming their belts are existant and happened within the last 2 or 3 years..
A young boy, (2 in fact) were stopped and were not shot..

Newspaper and magazine articles as well as other press reports recount numerous bombers in Israel that are identified, and "talked" down.. Not shot..

The point of the article was that government(s) tend to be the "cause" of the problems in the first place..
Those same governments then "solve" the problem by eroding individual liberties..
The author was correct in the premise of his article..

As for jumping a turnstile, resisting arrest or failing to obey the direct command of a LE officer is concerned, while those acts may be illegal, only dire circumstance justifies use of deadly force..
Granted, the extremely tense situation in London contributed to this tragic shooting, but "suspicion" is still not the same as "I observed what appeared to be a bomb strapped to the suspect's waist.. "..
Not the same at all..

I will excuse the officer's over-reaction due to circumstance..
But I refuse to Justify It..
They made a mistake..
They were wrong, and a man died...

15 posted on 07/27/2005 2:02:04 AM PDT by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: Drammach

"Newspaper and magazine articles as well as other press reports recount numerous bombers in Israel that are identified, and "talked" down.. Not shot.."

And newpaper and magazine articles also have reports of numerous bombers in Israel that were not 'talked down'. Any of those 'newpaper and magazine articles' tell the tale of 'talking down' a suicide bomber after jumping turnstiles and running on board a train?

If it were as easy as you postulate, why all we have to do is erect lots of loudspeakes playing soothing music and tapes of Israeli police 'talking down' suicide bombers. Wonder why the Israeli police haven't thought of that?


22 posted on 07/27/2005 4:01:00 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Stupidity can be a self-correcting problem.)
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To: Drammach

"The point of the article was that government(s) tend to be the "cause" of the problems in the first place..
Those same governments then "solve" the problem by eroding individual liberties..
The author was correct in the premise of his article.."

If the author was correct, then it should be easy to describe how 'government caused' the problem of suicide bombers.


24 posted on 07/27/2005 4:04:23 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Stupidity can be a self-correcting problem.)
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