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To: ninenot

Additional Point: What is so wrong with wanting a weak and ineffectual government? Weak governments generally don't pry into your business and don't tax you excessively.

What ever happened to "you mind your business and I will mind mine?"

The Libertarian/SoCon rift will tear the Republicans apart mark my words...... After all Fascists and Communists both had the same goals but just came from opposite directions.


18 posted on 07/29/2005 8:05:46 PM PDT by rasblue (What would Barry Goldwater do?)
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To: rasblue; ninenot; sittnick; onyx; Lady In Blue; AlguyA; Petronski; Antoninus
Nothing is wrong with government being weak and ineffectual so long as it can defend its constituents from the initiation of force or fraud by enemies foreign and domestic.

If your business is killing innocent babies (near 50 million to date by surgical means alone), then you need your business pried into and shut down and you need to be punished. That is what happened to: "You mind your business and I will mind mine."

I rather doubt that either I or ninenot or any of the others I have pinged desire overtaxation or anything more than minimalist taxation.

If Libertarians simply cannot abide the protection of innocent human lives, then why would any genuine conservative want anything to do with allying with Libertarians. Libertarian, Nazi or Communist, I take a dim view of the slaughter of millions of utterly innocent humans and I have no desire for alliance with those who insist that I accept abortion as a condition of alliance.

You grossly overestimate "libertarian" influence in the GOP on such issues. In 1976 and then in 1980, this was hashed out in the GOP primaries. Ford won in 1976 as Goldwater literally warned Repubican not to let Reagan's finger near the nuclear trigger. The lifestyle leftists such as Ford, his wife Betty and the "Goldwater" Republicans were routed in 1980 and have not been spotted significantly since. Goldwater himself promised to be pro-life if he was returned to the Senate against a pro-life Democrat and then stabbed pro-lifers in the back by continuing to vote pro-abort. His first wife Peggy was a Planned Barrenhood director nationally from bout 1940 until her death in 1975 or thereabouts. Goldwater, late in life, also bragged about taking his daughter for one or more abortions and ezxpressed support for the homosexual lifestyles of multiple descendants.

Check the GOP National Platforms of the last thirty or so years and you will see the rout of the lifetsyle leftists on abortion, homosexuality and other issues. The tail has not wagged and will not wag the GOP dog. For every social left defection to the Party of the Arkansas Antichrist and of Mrs. Antichrist or half-defection to the LP, there will be multiple defections of poor but socially conservative Democrats to the GOP.

On some very important issues, Nazis, Communists and other pro-aborts have held the same goals from whatever direction.

20 posted on 07/31/2005 7:02:49 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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