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To: sphinx

"They are people who have never been hungry, never done any hard physical work, never been seriously cold..."

How right you are. I saw this first hand over 30 years ago when some spoiled rich kids bought a "farm" and formed a commune. Perhaps the greatest contradicition I had witnessed at that time was their dependence on Food Stamps - for which they qualified because they had small children and none of them worked.

When I was young, I enjoyed reading Thoreau, because he wrote of self-reliance. These folks never ever approached being self reliant when mom and dad were just a phone call away.


30 posted on 07/24/2005 5:32:23 AM PDT by wingman1 (University of Vietnam 1970. Forget? Hell.)
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To: wingman1
some spoiled rich kids bought a "farm" and formed a commune.

I think the finest example of honest communal living is the Amish. They have managed to build up themselves a highly admired society which actually is societally productive. These people would never depend on food stamps, but they are not shy about hard work either. The key difference here is that they have a common belief in a transformative deity (Born Again) and a community committment to rejecting those who will not abide by their strict codes.

Even if the New ecofascist order could create something like this for a few brutal years, it would quickly be overturned. There's one thing that Communism, EcoFascism and Islamofascism have in common is that they all must have complete global control in order to function. There is no room for tolerance of any other philosophy or order. They all blame their failure on the success of other philosophies.

In contrast the Amish THRIVE in the community. They live with and trade with the community while living differently and apart from it. The Amish arent trying to save the world, they are focused on trying to save their own souls. Perhaps the EcoFascists could take a lesson.

38 posted on 07/24/2005 6:29:14 AM PDT by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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