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'Mandela helped me survive Monicagate, Arafat could not make the leap to peace...
Guarian ^ | 7/21/05

Posted on 07/22/2005 11:06:56 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

...Iraq - low on the danger list

One of My Life's most arresting passages describes the handover meeting Clinton had with his successor in December 2000. George Bush reckoned the biggest security issues he would face would be national missile defence and Iraq. "I told him that, based on the last eight years, I thought his biggest security problems, in order, would be Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida; the absence of peace in the Middle East; the standoff between nuclear powers India and Pakistan, and the ties of the Pakistanis to the Taliban and al-Qaida; North Korea; and then Iraq."

...In his view, Iraq was worth inspecting for WMD, but the U.N. was the way to get the job done. "My view was that we shouldn't attack until the UN inspectors are finished and they can say, 'He [Saddam] did or did not comply.'" For that reason, and to help Blair, Clinton started working the phones, lobbying the leaders of Mexico and Chile to vote for the famous second UN resolution on Iraq, because it would have given Hans Blix and his team a few more weeks and might have got "America to defer military action"....

...Monica - the couch months

..."What I had done with Monica Lewinsky was immoral and foolish," he says in the book. "I was deeply ashamed of it and I didn't want it to come out. In the deposition [in which he denied "sexual relations"] I was trying to protect my family and myself from my selfish stupidity."...

"I was misleading everyone about my personal failings. I was embarrassed and wanted to keep it from my wife and daughter. I didn't want to help Ken Starr criminalise my personal life, and I didn't want the American people to know how I'd let them down....

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bookexcerpt; impeachedx42; kennethstarr; kenstarr; mylies; news

1 posted on 07/22/2005 11:06:57 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

I didn't look further. Just this little bit strikes me as exceptionally boring.


2 posted on 07/22/2005 11:15:03 AM PDT by stevem
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Amazing that he finally figured all that out as he was pardoning and stealing.


3 posted on 07/22/2005 11:18:00 AM PDT by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Gee, Billy writes that Bush had it all wrong and he had it all right. OK, let's give you that, that Al Qaeda WAS the big problem and Bush was wrong about Iraq...

...so why the hell didn't you DO anything about Al Qaeda, Billy-Boy, if you're so damned smart you considered it the #1 threat?

4 posted on 07/22/2005 11:18:49 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Dean won't call Osama guilty without a trial, but DeLay and Rove should be in jail)
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To: Darkwolf377

According to the Bush administration, Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda was not mentioned in ANY of the transfer conferences.


5 posted on 07/22/2005 11:24:22 AM PDT by Howlin (Yesterday was my 7 year FR anniversary!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

"Man, I'll tell you what, there are a lot of hot-looking chics up here in Westchester County. Man 'o man, That Jeanine Piro is hot! No lie! 'Mr. Winky' sure would like to meet her! Damn!" -Bubba, A LEGEND IN HIS OWN MIND


6 posted on 07/22/2005 11:24:55 AM PDT by RexBeach (Pardon me, but is that a malaise sandwich in your pocket or are you just glad to be in a funk?)
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To: Howlin

That's been my understanding all along. But are you actually implying that Billyboob was lying? Shame on you! :P


7 posted on 07/22/2005 11:28:03 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Dean won't call Osama guilty without a trial, but DeLay and Rove should be in jail)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
...I thought his biggest security problems, in order, would be Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida; the absence of peace in the Middle East; the standoff between nuclear powers India and Pakistan, and the ties of the Pakistanis to the Taliban and al-Qaida; North Korea; and then Iraq.

B.S. He's lying again. If, as he claims, he knew these to be the two biggest threats for W, just what were the plans the all-knowing impeached former president had begun? What was he doing to preserve this country's security?

Why, he was busy freeing convicted terrorists from prison. He was busy pardoning wanted felons (donors) who had fled justice. What he wasn't doing was his job, and thankfully he was, and remains, the only elected president in the history of the country, ever to be impeached.

8 posted on 07/22/2005 11:32:00 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Lying sack of turd.


9 posted on 07/22/2005 11:35:39 AM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: Darkwolf377

He was too busy beating his meat in the Oval office sink and stinking up his cigars. Now his wife wants a shot at the sink.


10 posted on 07/22/2005 11:37:01 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

He'd rather climb a tree to tell a lie than stay on the ground and tell the truth.


11 posted on 07/22/2005 11:40:33 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: Howlin

"Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda was not mentioned in ANY of the transfer conferences."

NO! Richard Clarke spoke to Condi Rice about Osama and he could tell by looking at her eyes she never heard of the guy.

If you believe that story, I got a bridge...


12 posted on 07/22/2005 11:44:43 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy

Yes! I remember HE said HE told her, but THEY say different!


13 posted on 07/22/2005 11:48:00 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

You took the words out of my mouth. Anyone who believes that clinton actually said this to Bush is an idiot. I watched the transfer of power on TV. Clearly clinton's only concern was to hog the camera just as long as possible.


14 posted on 07/22/2005 11:50:59 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

It's all revisionist history -- all of it.


15 posted on 07/22/2005 11:56:10 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

just a little revisionist history. If bin Laden was such on the threat horizon, as he now says, what didn't he deal with him.


16 posted on 07/22/2005 12:12:51 PM PDT by BlackjackPershing
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To: Howlin

They were too busy removing all the "Ws" from the keyboards...


17 posted on 07/22/2005 12:16:10 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Howlin
I didn't want to help Ken Starr criminalise my personal life...

Bubba did THAT all on his own, with the help of HRC.

18 posted on 07/22/2005 12:18:56 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
His team is known for their sexual appetites. The impeachment, aspirin factory, Chinagate, pardons.... made Bubba special
19 posted on 07/22/2005 12:20:12 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection (I take the Ginsburg)
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To: SERKIT

20 posted on 07/22/2005 12:22:42 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Corin Stormhands

And denying it.


21 posted on 07/22/2005 12:23:11 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Slick, The Jeff Spicoli of presidents.
22 posted on 07/22/2005 12:23:36 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Slick, The Jeff Spicoli of presidents.
23 posted on 07/22/2005 12:23:48 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Slick, The Jeff Spicoli of Presidents.
24 posted on 07/22/2005 12:24:06 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Arafat could not make the leap to peace


Because it looked like the Grand Canyon to this terrorist.


25 posted on 07/22/2005 12:25:47 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (The alternative media is our Enigma machine.)
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To: BlackjackPershing

BILL CLINTON'S TRUE LEGACY

TO AMERICA.

1993-ATTACK ON THE WORLD TRADE CENTER

Treated as a "crime" with no foreign terrorist involvement. However, Blind Islamic Radical Sheik is convicted for conspiracy. Bin Laden named as an "un-indicted co-conspirator" in 1996. The same year he is offered to the Clinton Administration by the Sudan and refused saying they don't have enough evidence to convict him. Bill Clinton never visits site.
1993-18 Soldiers killed in Somalia and 84 wounded in attack planned by bin Laden. Clinton pulls troops out of Somalia. bin Laden claims victory and gains status with his followers as one who is able to make the "Great Satan" run. Somalia falls into a chaos that remains to this day.
1993- the FBI identified three "charities” connected to the terrorist organization Hamas. Clinton ignored pleas that he create a "President’s List” of extremist and terrorist groups. He feared the political fallout of "profiling” Islamic charities. Money continues to flow freely to terrorist organizations for the next 8 years.
1993-The Srebrenica Report (Dutch) revealed in 1993 Clinton embarked on an Iran/Contra like affair with Islamic Terror groups in Bosnia. In both Afghanistan and the Gulf, the Pentagon had incurred debts to Islamist groups and their Middle Eastern sponsors. By 1993 these groups, many supported by Iran and Saudi Arabia, were anxious to help Bosnian Muslims fighting in the former Yugoslavia and called in their debts with the Americans. Bill Clinton and the Pentagon were keen to be seen as creditworthy and repaid in the form of an Iran-Contra style operation - in flagrant violation of the UN security council arms embargo against all combatants in the former Yugoslavia. a mysterious fleet of black C-130 Hercules aircraft appeared and Mojahedin fighters were also flown in. This report has just recently been made public.
1994- Algerian terrorists attempt to hijack French Airliner to fly into the Eiffel Tower. Plane is stormed by French police.
1994-"Terror 2000" was distributed to the Defense Department, State Department, FEMA, intelligence communities and members of Congress. "Targets such as the World Trade Center not only provide the requisite casualties but because of their symbolic nature provide more bang for the buck. In order to maximize their odds for success, terrorist groups will likely consider mounting multiple, simultaneous operations with the aim of overtaxing a government's ability to respond, as well as to demonstrate their professionalism and reach." At the State Department's request, it was "scrubbed" of some details, including how to hit the Pentagon or White House by airplane using the Washington Monument as a landmark.
1995- Then-Rep. Robert Torricelli, D-N.J., made secrets public at the behest of left-wing activist Bianca Jagger, his girlfriend at the time. The secrets suggested that the CIA had on its payroll one or more unsavory characters who had been involved in murder. He compromised American intelligence-gathering abilities around the world, adding that numerous CIA sources had decided to stop giving information for fear they would be outed by a congressman. Torricelli efforts paid off with the Clinton administration, which moved to ban the use of spies or the recruitment of spies that had any involvement with criminals or terrorists. Torricelli effectively blinded the CIA.
1995-5 U. S. soldiers killed in Saudi Arabia in bombing.
1995-Oklahoma City Bombing. 168 dead. Domestic terrorists blamed.  Jayna Davis, Oklahoma investigative reporter attempts to turn over evidence she has in the form of security videos and witness testimony to the FBI, but after checking with his superior, the evidence is refused. A Justice Department inspector, one of Clinton's own, admitted that the Oklahoma City bombing investigation "offered one of the worst examples of de facto evidence tampering by the FBI crime labs."
1995-"Operation Bojinka" plot hatched by an al Qaeda cell with an eye toward blowing up 12 American airliners. Some would be booby-trapped with bombs, like Pan Am 103, others hijacked like the four U.S. jets commandeered on 9-11 and crashed into buildings.
1996-CIA and FBI warn Clinton they have uncovered plot of al Qaeda "Martyrdom Battalion" terrorists to hijack planes and use them as missiles. This apparently is never passed on to the Congress.
1996-Philippine authorities warn the FBI they have received credible information that al Qaeda is planning on hijacking planes and flying them into Federal Buildings. Again, this information apparently stops with Bill Clinton and is never passed on to the proper Congressional Intelligence Committees.
1996-The downing of TWA Flight 800. 230 dead. Mechanical Failure blamed. Hundreds of eyewitnesses ignored as they claim they saw a surface to air missile launch and destroy the plane. Bill Clinton issues Executive Order 13039 to keep all involved in recovery process silent. Pilots Union claims FAA report on mechanical failure "bogus". FBI tells witnesses what they saw was a single "fireworks" display.    Read "Oklahoma City Bombing and TWA Flight 800" for more on these
1996-Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 military personnel.
1996-Sudan offers to turn over bin Laden to US through negotiator and Clinton supporter Mr. Mansoor Ijaz. He warns them not to slight the Intelligence Officer in the Sudan by sending an aide to the Sec. of State. They ignore him and send an underling. Insulted by the slight, the Sudan refuses to speak to him. Clinton blows off offer saying they don't have enough evidence to indict bin Laden.
1996-bin Laden leaves Sudan and goes to Afghanistan as a "guest" of Mullah Omar, head of the
Taliban.
1997-UNOCAL brought members of the Taliban here to the States to wine and dine them, take them to beach, show them their U.S. offices and take them to Washington to meet with the Clinton State Department. The fact they are harboring a wanted terrorist, bin Laden, is ignored.
1997- Final report of the Gore Commission on Aviation Safety comes out. The DNC received at least $498,000 from the airline industry. There was no deadline by which those requirements would have to be implemented and 2) there was no funding mechanism for ensuring that they were enacted. This insured that none of the recommendations would ever be implemented. Boston Globe, a known liberal newspaper, says Gore, “failed conspicuously to address airline safety.” That failure was traced directly to a series of campaign contributions from the airlines to the DNC.
1997- Warren Christopher resigns as Sec. of State over a conflict with Clinton over the removal of top secret defense technology from the realm of the State Department, with Congressional oversight, to the hands of Ron Brown and the Department of Commerce. He stated that that the president's actions were reckless and may jeopardized the military defense of this nation. Admonished Clinton for planning to hand over to the Communist Chinese, American missile guidance programming source codes embedded in commercial U.S. satellites. Christopher, is said to have told Clinton, the Brown deal could jeopardize "...significant military and intelligence
interests..." of the United States missile guidance system. Clinton quietly put out a post dated Executive order protecting the two companies under Congressional investigation from any criminal prosecution.
1997-The Northern Alliance threatens to overrun the Taliban and is poised to remove them from power. The Clinton Administration imposes a cease fire that both sides agree to. Saudi Arabia and Pakistan use this opportunity to re-arm the Taliban army. Clinton knows this is happening, but withholds that information from the Northern Alliance and Congress. This action assures that the Taliban will solidify their power and push back the Northern Alliance.
1997-Madeleine Albright becomes Sec. Of State. She later states, after the attacks, in her defense of Bill Clinton: "This is hard to say and I haven't found a way to say it that doesn't sound crass, but it is the truth that those {attacks before Sept. 11} were happening overseas and while there were Americans who died, there were not thousands and it did not happen on U. S. soil."
1998-Bombing of the U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000.
1998- bin Laden issued his fatwa urging his followers to target the U. S. and all Americans.
1998- Sudan offered to extradite Sayyid Iskandar Suliman and Sayyid Nazir Abbass to the U.S. for trial. They were wanted by the US for being directly involved in the bombings of its embassy in Kenya and they had intimate knowledge of the operations of the alleged guerrilla chief Osama bin Laden. The State Department, in blocking the FBI from pursuing the lead, noted that Sudan has been listed for over a decade as a state sponsor of terrorism. Yet Sudan, the official said, had asked only for a “dialogue” with the United States toward restoring a more normal diplomatic relationship. Their offer was completely ignored and Clinton instead bombed the al-Shifa pharmaceutical factory in Khartoum.
1998- UNOCAL gave up all hope of a pipeline across Afghanistan and pulled out. Not because of Afghanistan harboring a terrorist, but from pressure from the Women's Rights groups over the Taliban's treatment of women in Afghanistan.
1998-Missile strike against bin Laden's Khost, Afghanistan training camp and a Sudanese pharmaceutical factory to take Monica off the front pages is a total failure. Clinton lobs over $70 million dollars worth of Cruise Missiles at Sudan and Afghanistan hitting nothing but tents, camels and the only pharmaceutical plant in the Sudan. Done without consulting his Joint Chiefs. He informs them of his plans one half hour prior to the attack. Their pleas for him to stop the attack due to inadequate intelligence, are ignored. They later distance themselves from the attack by admitting they were not consulted. The Military Commander in that area said it "would have been a million to one shot."
1999-Ahmed Ressam, an Algerian, is arrested trying to cross the Canadian Border with explosives.
1999-Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, (R-Cal), who has spent time in Afghanistan fighting with the Northern Alliance, received credible information as to the whereabouts of bin Laden in Afghanistan. He immediately contacted the CIA with this information. The Information was never acted on. During the Clinton Administration the Voice of America became known, within Afghanistan, as the Voice of the Taliban. “People go berserk when I say that Clinton supported the Taliban, but that is the truth.” says Rohrabacher.
1999-Gen. Pervez Musharraf overthrows Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on Oct. 12 in a military coup. Clinton later claims his plans to obtain bin Laden through millions in pay-offs to the Sharif Government collapse with the coup, which is very odd story since the Sharif Government was a supporter of the Taliban and bin Laden. Indeed, even the Musharraf Government supports the Taliban until after the 9/11 attacks when it becomes healthier to deal with the Taliban than an angry and hostile American military. He sees this as a chance to rid his country of the Islamic radicals that he says are the 1% of the population holding the other 99% hostage.
1999-Clinton’s own secretary of defense, William Cohen, in a July 1999 op-ed piece in the Washington Post, predicted a terrorist attack on America’s mainland.
1999-"Project Megiddo" goes public on FBI website. It is a directive, given in 1995 to FBI from Bill Clinton to direct their investigative efforts towards only domestic terrorism such as the Christian Right and militias. In short, foreign involvement is to be ignored which now explains why no evidence of foreign terrorists involvement was accepted in the Oklahoma City Bombing and downing of TWA Flight 800.
1999-A report, titled "Sociology and Psychology of Terrorism: Who Becomes a Terrorist and Why?," cautioned that Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network might seek revenge for the 1998 U.S. air strike on bin Laden's camps in Afghanistan. It is ignored as merely a psychological report, with no credible sources.
1999- the U.N. imposes sanctions to cut off funds for Taliban arms.
1999-the U.S. finally added bin Laden and his al Qaeda organization to its list of “foreign terrorist organizations”. Still, they did not single out Afghanistan or the Taliban nor add Afghanistan to the list of countries that harbor terrorists, despite the fact bin Laden is harbored there.
1999-Mullah Khaksar, then the Taliban regime's deputy interior minister, met with U.S. diplomats Gregory Marchese and J. Peter McIllwain in Peshawar, Pakistan, in April 1999 and told them he wanted to oust Taliban supreme leader Mullah Mohammed Omar because of his support for Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda terror network. The offer was ignored by Bill ClintonBill told him, through his people, that "he didn't want to get involved in internal Afghani matters".
1999 - The Transportation Security Administration altered a terrorist report to exclude any and all references to foreign terrorists. David Holmes, head of the Commerce Department zeroed in on white militia groups in a 1999 threat analysis. Commerce officials who worked on the case say Holmes' exclusion of every threat group that wasn't white was in keeping with what they say was a broader Clinton administration policy of focusing on domestic threats from white militia groups, rather than Islamic groups, in combating terrorism. "Holmes made us take out every group that wasn't white – no minority groups allowed," "He was toeing the liberal line" of the Clinton administration.
July 2000 – three months before the deadly attack on the destroyer Cole in Yemen another plausible offer to deal for bin Laden. The offer required only that Clinton make a state visit there (Yemen) to personally request bin Laden's extradition. But senior Clinton officials sabotaged the offer.
2000-Bombing of the USS Cole. 17 sailors killed, 39 injured. Millions will be spent repairing the ship. bin Laden and the al Qaeda are the foremost suspects.
2000-Clinton orders the remains of TWA Flight 800 destroyed thus ending any possible further investigation into the downing.
2000-Bill Clinton has successfully cut the military in half over his eight years in office and blinded and effectively neutered our intelligence gathering ability.
2000-The Intelligence community around the world reports an "increase in traffic", which means more than usual interaction between terror cells which usually is a precursor of an attack somewhere in the world.
2001-Bill Clinton leaves office. Does he brief Bush on all the foreign terror information he has? Only they know.
2001-George W. Bush has 8 months in office before bin Laden launches his next attack on the US.
2002- Many Democrats start asking "What did the President know and when did he know it" ala Watergate, implying that GW knew the attacks were imminent and did nothing...ignoring all the attacks and warning signs that occurred under Bill Clinton.
2002- Bill Clinton continues to try and re-write history.  Claiming he was "obsessed" with bin Laden.  His aides and those that know him, say differently.

26 posted on 07/22/2005 12:27:05 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

"What I had done with Monica Lewinsky was immoral and foolish," he says in the book. "I was deeply ashamed of it and I didn't want it to come out.

Um, what exactly does "IT" mean?


27 posted on 07/22/2005 12:27:21 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (The alternative media is our Enigma machine.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
Don't forget Slick also made time to haul off tax-payer furniture and fixtures from The Whitehouse.

Which that had to return. Shameful.

28 posted on 07/22/2005 12:28:33 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun

Don't forget Slick also made time to haul off tax-payer furniture and fixtures from The Whitehouse
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Was that ever returned?


29 posted on 07/22/2005 12:52:18 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (America is gradually becoming the Godless,out-of-control golden-calf scene,in "The Ten Commandments")
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To: Howlin

No one in the press seems to remember that for all practical purposes, THERE WAS NO NORMAL TRANSITION from the clinton to the Bush administrations, because Gore and the DNC started the chad wars and clinton refused to permit any of Bush's appointees to enter government offices or work with their opposite numbers until that faked dispute was settled.

As a result, there was little chance to pass anything along, even if there had been any good will to do so.

One result of these administrative delays and of Democrat footdragging in the Senate confirmation process was that many administrative offices were filled late. The FBI had no director until shortly before 9/11.


30 posted on 07/22/2005 2:31:12 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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