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I agree, Let's Not Let the Rove Scandal Die Just Yet - (Dems not yet sufficiently embarrassed!)
DAVID LIMBAUGH.COM ^ | JULY 21, 2005 | DAVID LIMBAUGH

Posted on 07/21/2005 9:14:53 PM PDT by CHARLITE

Before President Bush's Supreme Court nomination of Judge John Roberts completely overshadows the misidentified Karl Rove scandal, I think we better take a second look at the twisted direction this sad story has taken.

As far as Karl Rove's conduct in the Plame/Wilson affair, there is no scandal. He didn't come close to committing a crime, nor even an ethical infraction.

He didn't set out to expose a CIA operative, much less an undercover one. He was the recipient of a phone call in which he cautioned Time's Matt Cooper not to be taken in by the politically driven Joe Wilson, whose operative wife, Valerie Plame, had played a great role in securing Wilson's "fact-finding" trip to Niger.

Rove, who didn't even mention Plame's name, couldn't have known she was an undercover CIA agent -- because she wasn't. He manifestly wasn't motivated to expose her for the purpose of punishing Wilson -- because "exposing" her non-covert status couldn't possibly have damaged her.

But Rove did have a motive to share his information with Cooper: to warn him of the nepotistic connection between Plame and Wilson and to thus take Wilson's claims with a grain of salt.

Rove did nothing wrong. Indeed, he had an obligation to alert Cooper to Wilson's chicanery because, among other reasons, questions of our national security were involved. As the president's right-hand man, shouldn't we expect Rove to do his part to correct the record about a matter so serious: whether Saddam was trying to or did acquire uranium from Niger?

The media and Democrats seem to be saying that we can't let Rove off the hook just because he might not have technically violated the law. He must be fired or at the very least lose his security clearance because of his indiscretion.

But there was no indiscretion. Plame was not undercover and hadn't been. She had no secret status to protect. Neither she nor her husband -- it appears -- even treated her status as clandestine. Rove isn't getting off on a technicality. He did nothing wrong. The fact that the allegations against Rove are so serious doesn't change that -- and in no way taints his credibility -- because the allegations are false.

"But there was a leak," cry the Democrats and the press. "President Bush has always said he had a zero-tolerance policy for leaks out of his administration. He must fire the evil Karl Rove."

Even conservative pundits seem to be falling for this ploy. But if there was nothing secret about Plame's status, if there was nothing to protect, there could have been no leak.

Rove talked about her position for the purpose of showing the nefarious link between her and her husband -- and thus the dubiousness of Wilson's supposed findings. He "leaked" nothing. Why is simple English so difficult for people? You can't leak that which is already in the public domain.

But the cockeyed slant on this non-story is masking the real story here, which is not just that Joe Wilson was caught red-handed lying about his wife recommending him and the nature of his actual findings. The real story is the treachery of Wilson in distorting his findings for political purposes to the detriment of our national security.

According to the Senate Intelligence Committee, Wilson's findings did more to bolster than discredit the Brits' allegation that Saddam was trying to buy uranium from Niger. When he misrepresented those findings -- while working to elect John Kerry -- he consciously damaged our national security by tainting the historical record against America and her image. And what role, if any, did the CIA play in allowing itself to be manipulated for political purposes?

The fact that Democrats and the media are so desperate to bring down Karl Rove, the perceived primary mastermind behind their glorious loss of influence and power, respectively, apparently blinds them to their effective collusion with Wilson in his reckless conduct against this nation. And their non-stop bluster is apparently keeping the rest of us from focusing on it as well.

They are so determined to prove that President Bush lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq they're obviously willing to use discredited sources and data to make their case.

Let's not move beyond this story without noting the robust irony it contains. The same people who routinely (and baselessly) accuse President Bush of having fraudulently played the national security card in furtherance of his agenda to remove Saddam are demanding Karl Rove be fired because he can't be trusted in a sensitive national security position.

But it is these people, in their shameless elevation of Joe Wilson -- among other things -- who are complicit in sacrificing our national security interests for their own political agenda.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cialeak; democrats; joewilson; karlrove; leftists; liberals; matthewcooper; media; valerieplame
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1 posted on 07/21/2005 9:14:56 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE
As far as Karl Rove's conduct in the Plame/Wilson affair, there is no scandal. He didn't come close to committing a crime, nor even an ethical infraction.

This is SO cute. David thinks the facts matter.....

2 posted on 07/21/2005 9:16:53 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: CHARLITE

Still number 1 with the DUers, but I kind of miss the DSM rants.


3 posted on 07/21/2005 9:19:29 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: CHARLITE

Well here is a DUvian take:(They are sure its the end of not only Rove but Bush,Cheney, and perhaps Western Civilization)
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Zorbuddha (476 posts) Fri Jul-22-05 12:10 AM
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I hope Fitzgerald has an armored vehicle and sleeps in a fortress.
It would be a nightmare if something "happened" to him.

This world has sunk to the the level where nothing surprises me anymore.

I predict Fitz will be a rising star in the political world after all this shakes out and we take our country back.

New day dawning.


4 posted on 07/21/2005 9:23:50 PM PDT by woofie (I Predict...... Dr. Neil Clark Warren will someday kill his wife and stop being pleasant to others)
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To: ncountylee
but I kind of miss the DSM rants.

Ahh, those were the days. "This is it! Impeachment is just around the corner." "this is PROOF POSITIVE that Bush knowingly lied!" "July 18(?). The Day Everything Will Change"

The heady fragrance of paranoid lunacy.

*sigh* Such wonderful memories....

5 posted on 07/21/2005 9:24:21 PM PDT by Shazbot29 (If you paid attention you'd be worried, too!)
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To: Shazbot29
The heady fragrance of paranoid lunacy.

LOL - Beautiful description!

6 posted on 07/21/2005 9:29:30 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee

Move along..........nothing to see here.


7 posted on 07/21/2005 9:30:42 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (http://www.busateripens.com)
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To: CHARLITE

As much as I love, and learn, from Rush his brother is basically a walking Republican talking point or rehashed facts we already know. Nothing personal against him but does anyone ever learn anything new from David Limbaugh?


8 posted on 07/21/2005 9:31:54 PM PDT by sydbas
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To: Onelifetogive

LOL.....Yeah, my thought too.....Dems could care less about FACTS!


9 posted on 07/21/2005 9:33:07 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: sydbas
Nothing personal against him but does anyone ever learn anything new from David Limbaugh?

People who don't read FR? They have to have a reliable source. It might as well be Limbaugh.

10 posted on 07/21/2005 9:34:46 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: Shazbot29

Remember the days of the "Ohio Recount"? Right after the election, the entire DUmp was 100% sure that the election would be overturned. They even got Boxer and Conyers to contest the election.


11 posted on 07/21/2005 9:38:17 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative (Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.)
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To: CHARLITE

bump


12 posted on 07/21/2005 9:40:08 PM PDT by jonno (We are NOT a democracy - though we are democratic. We ARE a constitutional republic.)
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To: CHARLITE

Dont worry we get the last laugh in a few months time, wonder what old Jon Stewart will say then?


13 posted on 07/21/2005 9:48:32 PM PDT by danny5555
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To: CHARLITE

This is a homerun for David. It may be the most well-reasoned article I've read on the subject.


14 posted on 07/21/2005 9:52:30 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: CHARLITE
I think Bush should publicly fire Rove and then the next day rehire him. After all there is no reason not to hire him, he even has a security clearance.
15 posted on 07/21/2005 9:56:02 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: CHARLITE
Doesn't Wilson live hig on the hog? Higher than one would expect?

But the cockeyed slant on this non-story is masking the real story here, which is not just that Joe Wilson was caught red-handed lying about his wife recommending him and the nature of his actual findings. The real story is the treachery of Wilson in distorting his findings for political purposes to the detriment of our national security.

16 posted on 07/21/2005 9:59:43 PM PDT by GOPJ (A person who will lie for you, will lie against you.)
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To: CHARLITE

Bump


17 posted on 07/21/2005 10:02:03 PM PDT by Enterprise (Thus sayeth our rulers - "All your property is mine." - - - Kelo vs New London)
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To: GOPJ
distorting his findings for political purposes to the detriment of our national security.

Yep. It doesn't take 2 years to find out who talked to a few reporters. Just the idea that Wilson went to Niger at all should get people questioning his motives.

18 posted on 07/21/2005 10:05:07 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: GOPJ
Doesn't Wilson live hig on the hog? Higher than one would expect?

Lives in a ritzy section of D.C., drives a Jag convertible and is doubtless a consumer of fine French wine.

Retired ambassador, who never rose above third rate posts, and a civil servant wife. I'm sure they do O.K. -- but their style does seem a tad excessive.

Then, of course, there is additional income to be derived from Joseph C. Wilson Enterprises -- which brokers deals in third world countries. And which appears to be backed by Saudi interests...

19 posted on 07/21/2005 10:13:14 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Remember the days of the "Ohio Recount"? Right after the election, the entire DUmp was 100% sure that the election would be overturned.

Yeah. Right now, they've put a desk jockey's authority over that of a U.S. President. They say Bush is in deep trouble for "pi$$ing" on the CIA! Why THIS TIME they're REALLY going to get him.

20 posted on 07/21/2005 10:15:14 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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