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Smoke seen in London Train Station.( Explosions reported)

Posted on 07/21/2005 5:19:56 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55

Per foxnews


TOPICS: Breaking News; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; appeasement; binladen; busbombing; london; londonattacked; nashar; pakistan; religionofpeace; suicidebombers; trainbombers; tubeexplosion
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To: Miss Behave

ROFL


1,861 posted on 07/21/2005 9:40:41 AM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: rwfromkansas
"FYI, Madison actually supported with Jefferson a bill to punish Sabbath breakers in Virginia"

State's rights. There was nothing prohibiting any of the states from deciding to have a "state religion". Many of the various states still have "blue laws" on their books which are no longer enforced. The people in the states decide those matters. That's a whole different ballgame that to have one big centralized "FEDERAL" government attempting to dictate a one size fits all particular "religion".

The biblical worldview is the ONLY worldview wherein "all men are created with equal authority" and their rights are inalienable (can never be taken away) because they are given to them by God.

Every other worldview has one or more men in charge of granting any rights and freedoms that their "subjects" (in the world of religious and/or secular governments) are permitted to enjoy.

1,862 posted on 07/21/2005 9:40:52 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (The very idea of freedom presupposes some objective moral law overarching rulers and ruled alike)
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To: Stentor

"Doublethink"


1,863 posted on 07/21/2005 9:41:08 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Grampa Dave; artillerylane
Thanks for the list. (And the left is saying they attacked London because of Iraq in 2003?? ROFLOL!)

Perhaps artillerylane can amend his comments based on the facts he wasn't aware of.

He doesn't have the earmarks of a troll, Grampa. Just one who is ill informed about the length and depth of the jihad against us.

1,864 posted on 07/21/2005 9:41:24 AM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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To: artillerylane
hope that my views on this matter aren't incompatible with my using the site

I think anyone can use this site as long as they aren't abusive, what do I know?  =)

You seem intelligent, arty, hope you are not a troll-type and get zapped too quickly.

1,865 posted on 07/21/2005 9:41:44 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: Grampa Dave
Temple Seizure, June 5, 1984: Sikh terrorists seized the Golden Temple in Amritsar, India. One hundred people died when Indian security forces retook the Sikh holy shrine.
This one blows the credibility of the entire list. Sikhs are not Muslims just because they wear turbans and have beards.

That didn't stop the morons who firebombed a Sikh temple a couple miles from me in the wake of 9/11 of course. Both incidents have one thing in common: they prove that not all terrorists are Muslims.

-Eric

1,866 posted on 07/21/2005 9:41:46 AM PDT by E Rocc (Anyone who thinks Bush-bashing is banned on FR has never read a Middle East thread >:))
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To: Grampa Dave

Thanks Grampa Dave
What a sad summary. There are many in our country and in Congress that need to be reminded.


1,867 posted on 07/21/2005 9:42:03 AM PDT by proud2beconservativeinNJ
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To: artillerylane

We are in essential agreement.

There is no doubt, though, that if the Muslims fail to purge the terrorists, and pronto, the very radical suggestions for a solution will become reality.


1,868 posted on 07/21/2005 9:42:26 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: E Rocc

What you wrote doesn't chage my point.


1,869 posted on 07/21/2005 9:42:36 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (The very idea of freedom presupposes some objective moral law overarching rulers and ruled alike)
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To: E Rocc
(No, I'm not a Muslim....LOL. I routinely break their rules about pork and alcohol, and firmly disbelieve in their strictures about proper feminine attire. I defend them here on religious liberty grounds. Plus, historically they're not much different from Christianity).>>>>>

From your member profile.

Yeah Eric, Islam is just like Christianity. (not)

Garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods (22:19).

When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them Q 9:5

"When you meet the unbelievers in jihad [holy war], Chop Off Their Heads. And when you have brought them low, bind your prisoners rigorously. Then set them free or take ransom from them until the war is ended." (Koran, 47:4)

Slay or crucify or cut the hands and the feet of the unbelievers (5:34)

Fight unbelievers until no other religion except Islam remains. (3:85)

Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked,

"What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause." Volume 1, Book 2

If someone becomes a Muslim then apostatizes, he would be asked to repent; if he does not repent, he should be killed. [Imam al-Shafi'i, The Ordinances of the Qur'an (part 1, p. 289)

"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)

"...make war on the leaders of unbelief...Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them..." (Surah 9:12-)

1,870 posted on 07/21/2005 9:42:56 AM PDT by Selkie ("It is indeed a desirable thing to be well-descended, but the glory belongs to our ancestors." -- P)
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To: artillerylane

"Yes this is a global war and yes it is more serious than you can ever imagine."

But there's no evidence that would support that claim. I don't want to seem argumentative here, but we're talking about - on the one hand - a billion people. And - on the other - twelve years which have resulted in a handful of attacks.

And you're claiming that's a global war?



You are WRONG. They have been at war with the west since before the 1972 Olympics. Remember that 'hostage crisis'? Going back to 1967 they were attacking Isreal.

Yes this is a global war. India, Philipines, Malaysia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Algeria, Albania, Turkey, Chechnya, Russia, Somalia, Spain, Israel, Kenya, Germany, Canada, US, England, Lebanon, The Netherlands (Van Geogh murder ring any bells), are all suffering at the hands of Islamo-nazi's.

You have already neglected to mention the subjugation of Lebanon by these same extremist factions going back to the late 70's through today.

Remember, what they have done to Lebanon and Iran, two 'progressive' middle eastern countries after WW2, was merely a dress rehearsal for what they want to accomplish worldwide.

Islamic society does not mix well with others. That is a historic fact. America has been called the melting pot of the world. The Muslims do not subscribe to that and would rather we accept Sharia law than force them to adjust to our way of life. They use our freedoms against us. This is why we have to be ever vigilant against these people.

You mention that it is a small group. Well if it's a 1% claim that you are making them its the 99% that are NOT SPEAKING UP AGAINST THE 1%, identifying them to law enforcement, etc. They have become complicit in the terror.

There are over 30 active conflicts worldwide. One of them is not fueled by Islamo-fascism. You guess which one.


1,871 posted on 07/21/2005 9:42:57 AM PDT by SFC Chromey (IT IS A GLOBAL WAR AGAINST ISLAMO-NAZISM ...and Communists)
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To: Dad yer funny; Richard Poe; Jim Robinson

"thanks Grampa , a paid to agitate crapweasel , sounds about right , "hey artillerylane , give it a rest"

Richard Poe identified the trolls on Free Republic and other conservative web sites as Brown Shirted eletronic thugs a long time ago.

It is amazing how fast these Brown Shirted Electronic Trolls pop up to plead the case for the criminally and mentally insane jihadists


1,872 posted on 07/21/2005 9:43:01 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: E Rocc

You merely show the exceptions that prove the rule. A "Man bites dog" story.


1,873 posted on 07/21/2005 9:43:04 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: artillerylane
Fighting extremism with extremism is just not going to work.

The only ones who are even trying "extremism" are the Muslims themselves. It seems that, since London is now getting hit on a regular basis, and there is no evidence Muslims are attempting to "correct the problem themselves," there is every bit of evidence that appeasement does NOT work.

Kumbaya anyone?

1,874 posted on 07/21/2005 9:43:15 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: Selkie; Allegra
You dont have mass every day interaction with muslims.

I've gotten to know many quite well, the attitude supportsexcuses terrorim jihad.

Come on Vaca to NYC, Jersey City and Paterson NJ.

And then spout your assertion that Muslims aren't a problem.

Then how come every one I know who's been to Iraq feels that Islam isn't the problem?

-Eric

1,875 posted on 07/21/2005 9:43:54 AM PDT by E Rocc (Anyone who thinks Bush-bashing is banned on FR has never read a Middle East thread >:))
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To: Lizarde

A burning cross on the map? (made by the blast points) You think the media will ever get the message...


1,876 posted on 07/21/2005 9:44:10 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: mware

We are expected to remain calm while our country is being attacked by combatants.

I don't think, I don't want washy-washy bull, anymore, I want action, tough action, if Blair is not willing to lose friends, then he can pass the mantle onto someone else, I'll do what needs to be done.


1,877 posted on 07/21/2005 9:44:10 AM PDT by Big Bad Bob (7/7 - No Surrender)
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To: ohioWfan

Agree, Ohio. Based on one post, he was called a troll. It takes a little time, typically, to determine that.


1,878 posted on 07/21/2005 9:44:39 AM PDT by Peach
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To: artillerylane
Fighting extremism with extremism is just not going to work.

You can't negotiate with a rabid dog. The most you will do is irritate him and make him strike faster.

1,879 posted on 07/21/2005 9:45:01 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Grampa Dave

Thanks Gramps. Good post.


1,880 posted on 07/21/2005 9:45:15 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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