Posted on 07/11/2005 10:21:56 PM PDT by doug from upland
George "I Believe in Ghosts, Shadow People, Civilization on Mars, and Time Travel" Noory just discussed the Joseph Farah story about the plan for nuclear terror against the U.S.
The plan is to hit several major U.S. cities with nukes that will kill 4 million, including 2 million children. The plan is to hit New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Miami, and Las Vegas.
George is going to try to have on Paul Williams, whom he claims is the expert on the subject.
Some of the nukes are supposed to be in the country. How did they get here? Why, across the Mexican border, of course. Supposed the MS-13 gang has helped sneak them in.
Paul Williams the Dylan groupie?
everything is the border The freaking price of rice in China has to do with the border. I agree its an important issue, but if conservatives hang their hat on this as the ONLY issue that's important, we may have already won the next round of elections.
Now George has on a guy who claims someone is manipulating hurricanes to increase the cost of fuel.
Ironically, I meant "loose the next election." I could have sworn that's what I wrote. Anyway, that's what I meant.
I'm more than a little dubious.
I don't claim everything is the border and it is certainly not my most important issue. More important is stopping Satan's Daughter from getting to the White House again. This time, she will destroy this nation.
I'm on the east coast. I was getting ready to go to bed and trying to zero in on a good station to listen to when I HEARD THAT STUFF! Is THIS for real? I came downstairs to see if FR had anything on this Paul Williams and before I could do a search I saw YOUR POST on it.
Is this credible stuff?
Post No. 9 has a link to the story.
Weekly Column - July 14, 2004
Is al Qaeda Preparing a Nuclear Hit?
by J. R. Nyquist
Top U.S. officials are worried that al Qaeda is preparing a major assault before the November elections. The present level of concern was first voiced by the U.S. Attorney General, then by the Secretary of Homeland Security, and now by the acting Director of Central Intelligence. The warnings qualitatively differ from previous warnings. Two data points serve to explain this qualitative shift. The first data point is the claim that al Qaeda has nuclear weapons that are probably deployed on U.S. soil. The second data point is the fact that steps are being taken to cope with a major disruption of the November elections.
A new book by terrorism expert and former FBI consultant Paul Williams says that al Qaeda acquired 20 nuclear suitcase bombs from the Chechen mafia between 1996 and 2001. This agrees with similar statements made by Yossef Bodansky in his 1999 book, Bin Laden: The Man Who Declared War On America. In saying that al Qaeda poses a nuclear threat, Williams takes his analysis a step farther. He says that al Qaeda has almost assuredly smuggled suitcase bombs into the United States. He also says that these bombs are in the10 kiloton range, capable of inflicting millions of casualties. Williams believes that al Qaeda will use several of these devices in simultaneous attacks against urban targets by the end of 2005.
Is there any reason to credit this dreadful conclusion?
This week the countrys journalists were jolted by reports that security officials are looking into legal mechanisms for postponing the November elections in the event of a terror assault on the homeland. Conspiracy theorists and Bush-haters are already decrying what they call the obvious power-grab. But the story is not so simple, since the underlying threat is undeniably real. To be sure, Al Qaeda promised to bring death to America in the wake of 9/11 and deaths tardiness is evident. Many are therefore encouraged to denounce those who offer dire warnings. The July 19 issue of Newsweek offers a startling check to this view. American counter-terror officials have alarming intelligence, writes Michael Isikoff, about a possible al Qaeda strike inside the United States this fall
. Government officials are anticipating an attack that may force the postponement of the November presidential elections.
Now let us think. Would explosions on subways, buses or trains, etc., force a closure of the polls? Spain was hit by train bombings on the eve of its recent elections, and the elections went forward without postponement. To disrupt Americas elections a terrorist would need more than a few conventional bombs. He would have to kill more than a few hundred people to disrupt Americas elections.
According to Isikoff, U.S. intelligence analysts have concluded that al Qaeda wants to interfere with the [U.S.] elections. Newsweeks sources allege that the Justice Departments Office of Legal Counsel has been asked by the Department of Homeland Security to outline the legal steps required for election postponement
In a July 8 background briefing by the Department of Homeland Security, a senior official said that a major offensive was being planned by bin Ladens group. Osama bin Laden and Ayman Zawahiri have issued several public statements last fall, he explained, threatening to carry out those attacks. And numerous al Qaeda spokespersons have, in fact, said that these plans are underway and are near completion.
Al Qaedas stated goal is the destruction of the United States. This goal is peculiar in terms of its grandiosity and the frankness with which it has been broadcast. What are we to make of this? A small group cannot realistically hope to achieve such an objective on its own. Yet this is the stated objective. How on earth do they hope to advance their cause when it is so baldly overstated? After all, to propose unrealistic objectives is to court the disappointment of your own followers. If you say that you will soon destroy the United States you had better deliver a devastating attack or brace for a crippling loss of credibility and prestige. Be careful, as well, that your attack is not ineffectual since you will only raise the level of your adversarys vigilance.
Clearly, it makes no sense that al Qaeda would declare an objective without the means to achieve that objective. Furthermore, Superpowers do not scare easily. A social system predicated on economic optimism isnt going to surrender its most fundamental assumptions to an Islamic scarecrow hiding in a distant cave. And yet, American officials are worried. Now ask yourselves the next logical question: If the White House suspected that al Qaeda was ready with nuclear weapons on U.S. soil would the president warn the public?
In the first place, the government could not afford to warn the public. The warning itself would trigger an economic disaster and the government would be blamed. The government itself would be called on the carpet. The opposition party would turn the situation to political advantage. Therefore, a warning about nuclear strikes would be political suicide. The ruling power in this country cannot close the border because we depend on foreign trade. The government cannot arrest and deport illegal aliens because we depend on their labor. We cannot deport all Muslim aliens, since political correctness forbids such blatant profiling. The most effective security measures are impossible under the present political system. As it stands the U.S. would have to undergo an internal revolution before Washington could enact the policies most needed to defend against the suitcase nuclear threat. Simply put, the country is not ready to accept such measures. The country is not convinced that such measures are absolutely necessary. Therefore, the government cannot accept the reality of suitcase nuclear bombs sitting on U.S. soil! To admit of such a thing would be tantamount to admitting that our form of government must come to an end.
The basis of our nuclear defense for half a century has been deterrence. Unless you can pinpoint your enemy, unless you can locate him on a map, you cannot send a missile against him. You cannot retaliate. In the case of terrorists hiding in remote mountain caves, there may be no deterrence even if you threaten to locate them and nuke their cave. Since they do not care about their own lives, since they are determined to die for their cause, deterrence is ineffective.
Here is the dilemma of the United States in the first decade of the twenty-first century.
Are they taking requests? I would like to swap Chicago with San Francisco on the list. But I have my Potassium Iodide pills just in case.
The sky is falling!!!
If what makes the difference between a person worring about this is an article in Newsmax and an hour on Coast to Coast, I wouldn't worry about it much.
The shelf life of such "dirty bombs" has already expired, if the dates in the link are accurate.
Joseph Farah can be wacky. The last couple of years he's been going off the deep end but this Paul Williams fellow, Ive never heard of. I thought he said he was a former FBI agent - of course he could be nuts too ... but did you catch the name of the book Paul Williams wrote? I would look it up on amazon.
BTW, is there a transcript for this broadcast anywhere?
Whoops, I forgot that they mentioned Boston. I don't remember D.C., but that might have been on the list.
Thanks.
I'll read through it.
I think that Coast to Coast has access to a stored audio of the program for awhile.
My thoughts exactly, though I was going to be a little more blunt and say at times he can be a total nut. I can see how a few die-hard WND followers could be building bunkers in a few years...
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