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Doing a little due diligence on our local mosque and saw this New York Times article from September 19, 2001 which I thought might be of interest to others.
1 posted on 07/08/2005 2:41:58 PM PDT by True Capitalist
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Supporters of the Taliban and/or Bin Laden should be expelled from this country immediately.

They are a cancer.


2 posted on 07/08/2005 2:44:14 PM PDT by tomahawk (http://tomahawkblog.blogspot.com/)
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The World Trade Center attacks have only intensified the schisms in Afghan mosques throughout the region since the Taliban began its rise to power in 1994. At Hazrat-I-Abubakr Sadiq, the imam says his congregation has been feuding with some members for months.

"They are connected to the Taliban," said the imam. "The Taliban wants to destroy the center."

Members of the pro-Taliban contingent that opted to pray in the basement declined to be interviewed. Experts who have studied Afghan exiles in the United States say that such schisms have broken out in mosques in Virginia and California, and that they often reflect the ethnic divisions that mirror the support and opposition to the Taliban. In Afghanistan, the Taliban forces are made up almost entirely of Pashtuns, the country's largest ethnic group. The anti-Taliban forces are made up largely of ethnic Tajiks, Uzbeks and other minorities.

"The Afghan community is extremely divided, largely along ethnic lines," said Barnett Rubin, studies director at New York University's Center on International Cooperation. "There are pro-Taliban factions and there are anti-Taliban factions."

At the Hazrat-I-Abubakr mosque, the imam and many who support him are ethnic Tajiks. Those in the breakaway faction, they said, are mostly ethnic Pashtuns. The feuding has spilled outside the mosque, with the police saying they have been called several times recently to separate the two groups.

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3 posted on 07/08/2005 2:45:56 PM PDT by True Capitalist
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If they're still gathering in the basement or in the parking lot for prayers almost four years after 9/11 they should be easy to spot, round up, and throw out of the country. Their means of transport back to Afghanistan should be a slow leaky boat.


4 posted on 07/08/2005 2:50:53 PM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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"Why do you speak against Osama bin Laden? He is a good Muslim."

If that's true, then the only good Muslim is a . . .
8 posted on 07/08/2005 3:07:37 PM PDT by atomicweeder
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They say: "Why do you speak against Osama bin Laden? He is a good Muslim.' "

And yet CNN wants me to worry about hurting their feelings.

12 posted on 07/08/2005 3:35:35 PM PDT by skeeter ("What's to talk about? It's illegal." S Bono)
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New York City's largest Afghan mosque, supporters of the Taliban have chosen to pray in the basement or outside in the parking lot. They have not returned to the mosque for daily prayers since last Friday, when their imam denounced the attacks on the World Trade Center.

"When I speak against the Taliban and Osama, they harass me; so many times they harass me," Imam Mohammed Sherzad, the leader of Hazrat-I-Abubakr Sadiq mosque, said at his office in Flushing, Queens. "They say: "Why do you speak against Osama bin Laden? He is a good Muslim.' "

Names and addresses, we need their names. Otherwise the Imam is just flapping his gums.

15 posted on 07/08/2005 4:01:48 PM PDT by El Gato
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>supporters of the Taliban have chosen to pray in the basement or outside in the parking lot.<

There is your problem UK. You still allow Taliban supporters in your midst instead of having them deported. Is the West really serious about fighting terrorism?


19 posted on 07/08/2005 4:36:02 PM PDT by auburntiger (Liberalism is Evil disguised as Virtue.)
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What would have happened if we had Germans vocally, financially, and materially espousing Hitler back in the 40s or Stalin in the 50s? Either we are in awar or we are not. It's hard to understand why we do not declare war. Al Qaeda has declared war on us. Anyone who sympathizes should be declared an enemy of the state. What's so hard to understand here?

Dec. 7, 1941 Japan bombs Pearl Harbor. Pursuant to the Alien Enemy Act of 1798, Roosevelt issued identical Presidential Proclamations 2525, 2526 and 2527 branding German, Italian and Japanese nationals as enemy aliens, authorizing internment and travel and property ownership restrictions. A blanket presidential warrant authorized U.S. Attorney General Francis Biddle to have the FBI arrest a large number of “dangerous enemy aliens” based on the CDI. Hundreds of German aliens were arrested by the end of the day. The FBI raids many homes and hundreds more are detained before war even declared on Germany.

Jan. 1942 Pursuant to Presidential Proclamation 2525-2527 and 2537 (issued Jan.14, 1942), the Attorney General issues regulations requiring application for and issuance of certificates of identification to all “enemy aliens” aged 14 and older and outlining restrictions on their movement and property ownership rights. Approximately one million enemy aliens reregister, including 300,000 German-born aliens, the 2nd largest immigrant group at that time. Applications are forwarded to the Department of Justice’s Alien Registration Division and the FBI. Any change of address, employment or name must be reported to the FBI. Enemy aliens may not enter federally designated restricted areas. If enemy aliens violate these or other applicable regulations, they are subject to “arrest, detention and internment for the duration of the war.”

20 posted on 07/08/2005 6:18:12 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: everyone

Hi guys, I am an Afghan currently residing in the United States. I would like to clarify this article because I was there and know what was actually going on.

The imam, mentioned above, was hired to be a spiritual leader, he used his power to illegal raise money, which he used for his own expenses (home, carpets, etc). When ATIFA, the founders of the mosque, proven in the Supreme Court Case, wished to fire the imam, he began making ridiculous accusations so he could keep his position.

ATIFA, or the "breakaway" faction definitely did not and do not support the Taliban or Osama Bin Laden in any way. In fact, they are mainly composed of ethnic Uzbeks, Uzbeks who composed a large portion of the Northern Alliance that helped the US oust the Taliban in 2001.

The imam, who is an ethnic Pashtun himself, (you begin to see the hypocrisy and irony) kicked those who opposed him out of the mosque by force, with verbal and physical abuse, hence the ousted members were forced to pray in the basement and parking lot of the very building they constructed.

When the Supreme Court decision was made in the summer of 2004, everyone saw quite clearly that the mosque was founded and owned by ATIFA, but because of hate of Uzbeks that these people have had ever since living in Afghanistan, they continue to cause as much trouble and controversy as they can and still proceed to make baseless accusations.

I hope I have cleared up some of the misconceptions that this article has created in those that have read it, but that is the truth and I encourage everyone to establish the credibility of a source before believing it a 100 percent. Thank you.


22 posted on 07/19/2005 8:58:13 PM PDT by NYAfghan
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