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New London property values now at issue in eminent domain
Newsday.com ^ | July 3, 2005

Posted on 07/05/2005 11:55:58 AM PDT by Jubal Harshaw

NEW LONDON, Conn.

...homeowners and New London officials are now turning their attention to the monetary value of houses and property being taken ....

real estate prices have escalated in five years and Kelo and her neighbors will not profit from the increased value of their homes....

State law requires governments to compensate owners on the date of the taking, not its value in the current market. New London has technically owned the houses since 2000....

Because the city has technically owned the houses since 2000, its lawyers believe residents were living in the houses as tenants free of charge as the litigation proceeded....

lawyers for the homeowners were informed that their clients could be liable for use and occupancy fees if the courts upheld the city's use of eminent domain.

Information from: The Day, http://www.theday.com

(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: eminentdomain; kelo; newlondon
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The state is claiming that they owned Kelo's land from the day that they decided to take it. That means that:

(1) New London is planning to pay Kelo for the 2000 value of the property, not the 2005 value. Needless to say, the 2000 value is likely a LOT lower

(2) The city has already informed lawyers for Kelo et al that Kelo et al could be charged for rent for the time between 2000 and Kelo's eventual leaving of the property.

Discuss.

1 posted on 07/05/2005 11:55:58 AM PDT by Jubal Harshaw
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To: Jubal Harshaw

Time for weapons.


2 posted on 07/05/2005 11:57:12 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: Jubal Harshaw; brityank; TonyWojo; AAABEST; B4Ranch; editor-surveyor; countrydummy; Carry_Okie; ...

This just gets better and better! /s


3 posted on 07/05/2005 11:58:01 AM PDT by sauropod (Polite political action is about as useful as a miniskirt in a convent -- Claire Wolfe)
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To: Jubal Harshaw

Not a good idea to rub the noses of an angry public into the mud like that.


4 posted on 07/05/2005 11:58:07 AM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche........ "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: Jubal Harshaw

Won't be long before widespread bloodshed happens over eminent domain. I hold the government responsible for any deaths.


5 posted on 07/05/2005 11:58:16 AM PDT by Sir Gawain (When in doubt, cite the Commerce Clause)
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To: Jubal Harshaw

Who paid the yearly taxes.


6 posted on 07/05/2005 11:58:27 AM PDT by MJemison
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To: Jubal Harshaw

What a reaming these people got. Absolutely unjustified.


7 posted on 07/05/2005 11:58:31 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Jubal Harshaw

"The state is claiming that they owned Kelo's land from the day that they decided to take it."

This is getting nonsensical. Did the city of New London hold title to the property? Pay insurance? Here comes a new lawsuit to allow the court to reverse itself.


8 posted on 07/05/2005 11:58:55 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: johniegrad

i'm sure the city will gladly give back all property taxes they collected since then...


9 posted on 07/05/2005 11:58:59 AM PDT by republican2005
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To: Jubal Harshaw

It gets worse and worse,doesn't it?

Damned government and damned SCOTUS.

There will probably be riots in the streets before this is over.I hope I'm wrong.


10 posted on 07/05/2005 11:59:00 AM PDT by Mears (Keep the government out of my face!)
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To: Jubal Harshaw

Why not just poke them in the eye with a stick? It would probably hurt a lot less.


11 posted on 07/05/2005 11:59:28 AM PDT by houeto ("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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To: Jubal Harshaw

I can get the tar who has the feathers??


12 posted on 07/05/2005 11:59:33 AM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotle)
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To: Jubal Harshaw
(1) New London is planning to pay Kelo for the 2000 value of the property, not the 2005 value. Needless to say, the 2000 value is likely a LOT lower

Pathetic, but sounds like they're just taking advantage of the laws on the books. Of course, if the property values had somehow dropped in the interim, I imagine they'd find some form of justification for paying the lower price...

(2) The city has already informed lawyers for Kelo et al that Kelo et al could be charged for rent for the time between 2000 and Kelo's eventual leaving of the property.

This is just adding injury to insult.

13 posted on 07/05/2005 11:59:48 AM PDT by kevkrom (“It’s good to remember whom people turn to when they’re desperate — and it ain’t Kofi Annan.”)
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To: Jubal Harshaw

>>>Because the city has technically owned the houses since 2000, its lawyers believe residents were living in the houses as tenants free of charge as the litigation proceeded.... >>>

BRILLIANT! God Bless Amerika.


14 posted on 07/05/2005 12:00:14 PM PDT by sandbar
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"i'm sure the city will gladly give back all property taxes they collected since then..."

Would New London be immune to charges of fraud, due to collecting taxes upon properties that it now claims to own?


15 posted on 07/05/2005 12:00:34 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: johniegrad
Time for weapons.
Oh, right! Weapons will fix everything. Why, if the homeowners pull weapons on city representatives, they won't need to worry about how much they get for their property. They'll be eating and enjoying housing courtesy of the state prison system.
16 posted on 07/05/2005 12:00:37 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: johniegrad

You know, that was my first thought. These people need lawyers and rifles - this has to be settled differently than the insane Supreme Court position. Weird how the msm didn't give any notable attention to this case...


17 posted on 07/05/2005 12:00:49 PM PDT by mallardx
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To: Mears

>>>There will probably be riots in the streets before this is over.I hope I'm wrong.>>>

I hope you ARE wrong. Without riots, nothing will change and the government will CONTINUE to OWN us.


18 posted on 07/05/2005 12:01:14 PM PDT by sandbar
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To: johniegrad

"lawyers believe residents were living in the houses as tenants free of charge as the litigation proceeded...."

Their own houses?! WT......


19 posted on 07/05/2005 12:01:34 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Try permaculture and get back to the Founders intent. Mr. Jefferson lives!)
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To: nutmeg

The residents were required to submit to the city an accounting of their income and expenses. They didn't do it--good for them.


20 posted on 07/05/2005 12:02:15 PM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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