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To: Modok
I have no problem with military recruiters recruiting high school students. But perhaps you may want to actually read the section
(1) ACCESS TO STUDENT RECRUITING INFORMATION- Notwithstanding section 444(a)(5)(B) of the General Education Provisions Act and except as provided in paragraph (2), each local educational agency receiving assistance under this Act shall provide, on a request made by military recruiters or an institution of higher education, access to secondary school students names, addresses, and telephone listings.

(2) CONSENT- A secondary school student or the parent of the student may request that the student's name, address, and telephone listing described in paragraph (1) not be released without prior written parental consent, and the local educational agency or private school shall notify parents of the option to make a request and shall comply with any request.

(3) SAME ACCESS TO STUDENTS- Each local educational agency receiving assistance under this Act shall provide military recruiters the same access to secondary school students as is provided generally to post secondary educational institutions or to prospective employers of those students.

So by this measure if my child were to attend a public school and I did not know about the option to opt out (many parents apparently do not as these stories are popping up more frequently), by default their names are to be given to the government for recruiting purposes. The fact that those that supposedly advocate smaller limited government have no problem with this is disconcerting. Now I realize Republicans could care less for conservative principles anymore (as evidenced by this Act in general), but in effect what you are advocating is children as young as 14 or 15 would be receiving unsolicited mail from recruiters simply by attending school.

Why not take it a step further and require if they attend public school they should have to serve two years right out of high school. That's conservative....

25 posted on 07/02/2005 6:27:37 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: billbears
The horrors of giving military recruiters the same access to secondary school students as is provided generally to post secondary educational institutions or to prospective employers of those students
28 posted on 07/02/2005 6:30:36 AM PDT by Modok
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To: billbears

This has been going on for years under FERPA...

If a school is going to provide directory infomation to one organization it has to do so for all.

Is there any reason that a college, university, tech school, etc should have access to the information and have contact with the students and ROTC, the service academies, national guard, reserves, and active military doesn't?


49 posted on 07/02/2005 6:49:40 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Some day we may have to choose whether we'll be a criminal or a collaborator.)
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To: billbears
The difference is if secondary educational institutions or employrers have it, more than likely it means the student approached them and gave them approval to receive such information, not the other way around.

Actually, I had several hundred colleges send me info I didn't ask for.

Citizenship is a duty as well as a privelege. Why shouldn't high schools treat the US military as well as they treat private companies or colleges?

61 posted on 07/02/2005 7:09:07 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: billbears
Indeed, I can see the absolute insanity of giving US military recruiters the exact same access to students that "institutions of higher education" already have.

Better to resist on "conservative" principles and leave these students to only these so-called institutions of higher, (VERY debatable imo), learning, (indoctrination into the PCverse).

MUCH Much better.

NOT.
157 posted on 07/03/2005 12:49:40 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound (In the real world you have to play the hand you are dealt.)
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