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Israel closes Gaza settlements
CNN ^ | Thursday, June 30, 2005

Posted on 06/30/2005 3:51:10 AM PDT by Now_is_The_Time

The Israeli army Thursday declared all settlements in Gaza a closed military zone, following recurring disturbances with Israeli settlers and ultra-nationalists that have injured Israeli security personnel and Palestinians.

According to Israel Defense Forces (IDF), the area is closed to Israeli civilians except residents of Gaza settlements.

The move comes a day after a Palestinian was seriously wounded and two Israelis suffered minor injuries amid a stone-throwing melee between Palestinians and Israeli settlers upset over arrests at an illegal settlement outpost.

(Excerpt) Read more at edition.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; gaza; israel; palestinian; westbank; yesha
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1 posted on 06/30/2005 3:51:10 AM PDT by Now_is_The_Time
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To: Now_is_The_Time

Sharon should be ashamed of himself. Look what land for "peace" has wrought!


2 posted on 06/30/2005 4:15:31 AM PDT by TheBigPicture
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To: TheBigPicture; Alouette

I don't understand why the Israelis didn't expel the Jordanian citizens in 1967 - they couldn't possibly have thought there would be a good outcome to letting them stay within Israel's new boundaries. Was it fear of world opinion? When has that ever been on their side anyway?

Alouette, do you have any answers?


3 posted on 06/30/2005 4:26:39 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: nina0113

Why the Settlements Should Stay

http://www.tzemachdovid.org/Facts/settlements.shtml


4 posted on 06/30/2005 4:35:45 AM PDT by TheBigPicture
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To: TheBigPicture

Israel de-facto committed to a "Palestinian" state in 1967 - I don't see any way to avoid it. This (West Bank + Gaza) = Palestine is not viable, however. Remember East & West Pakistan? It's now Pakistan and Bangla Desh.

The "Palestinians" need to relocate, either ALL of them to Gaza, or ALL of them to the West Bank. They should take Gaza, & try to turn it into the Monaco of the Eastern Mediterranean, but they won't do that, because what they really want, and nothing else will suffice, is to drive the Jews into the sea & take the whole land of Israel.

If the Israelis ever are driven out, I hope they blast the entire infrastructure into hell before they let the Palestinians have it.


5 posted on 06/30/2005 5:09:49 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: nina0113


"Gaza" is just the remake of "Sudetenland", a European movie of the 1930s.

For those of you who didn't see the 1930s version,

First a small state (Czechoslovakia) is pressured
by the big powers to give up some land to an aggressor, in hopes of preserving peace.

The land is given up, and Czechoslovakia is thereby rendered less defensible.

In the next scene, the aggressor now demands even more
land, and takes it.

The movie concludes with an apocalyptic war, in which millions die.

If you saw the first version, you know how this one turns out. . .


6 posted on 06/30/2005 5:36:23 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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7 posted on 06/30/2005 5:36:52 AM PDT by SJackson (Israel should know if you push people too hard they will explode in your faces, Abed. palestinian)
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To: CondorFlight

Oh yes, and that's exactly what's wrong with that Wall. It should be running right down the middle of the Jordan River, not running all round Robin Hood's barn the way it does.

I used to say that the Israelis should give back the West Bank the day after Poland gives back East Prussia. I still think that, but Poland repatriated the Germans to Germany. Since Israel, for some reason, chose not to do that, they are stuck with an unassimilable hostile population. There are three ways to end this stalemate: 1) kill them all; 2) move them to another country; 3) surrender.

1) and 3) are not acceptable solutions. That leaves: 2) MOVE THEM OUT.

World opinion's against that - oh, those poor oppressed Palestinians! - but I can't imagine the Israelis give a crap about world opinion. The last time that was on their side was 1947. They do still care about US opinion, because America is the ultimate guarantor of Israel's existence. Unfortunately, we keep coming up with these crummy "land for peace" plans that don't work. The only thing that's going to work is for the Palestinians to have a separate state (it's too late to send them to Jordan) from Israel, with complete separation and a damned high wall in between.


8 posted on 06/30/2005 5:53:02 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: EzekielCode

I don't know if we would or not. The Israelis must share that uncertainty, or they'd be relocating the Palestinians instead of the Jews, and they'd put that wall where it ought to be. I was going to say that the non-Palestinian Arabs must share it as well, or they'd attack, but I don't think they really give much of a crap about Israel any more. They never did about the Palestinians, that was just rhetoric to tweak the Jews.


10 posted on 06/30/2005 6:26:57 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: Now_is_The_Time; Alex Marko
I suppose that when the situation devolves to the point of IDF troopers needing to physically protect a wounded Palestinian teenager from a Kahanist lynch mob, this step was inevitable and neccesary.

-Eric

11 posted on 06/30/2005 7:13:07 AM PDT by E Rocc (If God is watching us, we can at least try to be entertaining)
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To: EzekielCode

In 1973, when the Arab nations attacked Israel President Nixon resupplied Israel with US arms, triggering the Arab oil embargo against the US.

That shortfall in oil deliveries kicked off a deep recession. The US lost $420 billion (in 2001 dollars) of output as a result.


12 posted on 06/30/2005 7:14:02 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: nina0113
I don't understand why the Israelis didn't expel the Jordanian citizens in 1967

They should have expelled all Arabs from Jerusalem and the West Bank, and demolished the mosques on holy ground. They could have done anything they wanted in 1967, but that moment is long gone, and now the long process of national suicide is in full force.

14 posted on 06/30/2005 7:37:03 AM PDT by montag813
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15 posted on 06/30/2005 7:41:50 AM PDT by Alouette (The only thing learned from history is that nobody ever learns from history.)
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To: montag813
...the long process of national suicide...

You see that too? I was hoping it was just me, and that I was wrong. Maybe we both are.

16 posted on 06/30/2005 7:56:04 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: nina0113

The West Bank Pals tend to look down on the Gaza Pals as less educated and low rent. I don't think they want any Gaza Pals moving to the West Bank, and they don't want to move to Gaza.


17 posted on 06/30/2005 8:17:58 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: nina0113
Anyone with half a brain sees it.

Where and when did Sharon lose 3/4 of his brain?

19 posted on 06/30/2005 8:23:54 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Sarcasm/Some here don't get it unless you spell it out)
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Bye Stormfront boy.


20 posted on 06/30/2005 8:27:26 AM PDT by E Rocc (If God is watching us, we can at least try to be entertaining)
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