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Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., revealed that she would vote against the measure. "I don't believe a constitutional amendment is the answer".

"Ask the men and women who stood on top of the Trade Center," said Rep. Randy (Duke) Cunningham, R-Calif. "Ask them and they will tell you: pass this amendment."

Sen. Joseph Biden D-Del., a likely presidential candidate, has said he would oppose the amendment.

The proposed one-line amendment to the Constitution reads, "The Congress shall have power to prohibit the physical desecration of the flag of the United States." For the language to be added to the Constitution, it must be approved by two-thirds of those present in each chamber, then ratified within seven years by at least 38 state legislatures.

The amendment is designed to overturn a 5-4 Supreme Court ruling in 1989 that flag burning is a protected free-speech right. That ruling threw out a 1968 federal statute as well as flag-protection laws in 48 states. The law was a response to anti-Vietnam War protesters setting fire to American flags at demonstrations.

The Senate could consider the measure as soon as next month. House approval 286-130.

So far Linda Grist Cunningham, Executive Editor of the Rockford Register Star in Illinois is the only one who has publically threatened to "burn the flag" if the amendment passes the Senate.

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1 posted on 06/29/2005 5:59:26 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay

so is this another bill in the senate going the fillibuster
route?
i bet if you substitute the words french and/or united nation's flag every RAT would be running to vote for the bill


2 posted on 06/29/2005 6:02:32 AM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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Constitution >>> Flag.

I would hold up the right for someone to burn a flag. I would also support anyone who beat up a person burning a flag (that would be a form of expression too.)

Our congress needs something better to do.


3 posted on 06/29/2005 6:04:03 AM PDT by rwilson99 (South Park (R)
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Perhaps the ditz should wrap the flag around her body before she lights it. It sounds like she suffers from self-hatred. She may as well relieve herself of her misery and kill two birds with one stone.


4 posted on 06/29/2005 6:05:54 AM PDT by Vision Thing (Hillary is a mad cow.)
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Let's see if he is brave enough to burn a Koran.


5 posted on 06/29/2005 6:06:16 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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I, for one, would be tempted to join him.

Flag desecration ordinances are just stupid. It is cheap, tawdry partisan politics of the lowest order. I am ashamed that the Republican Party is wasting our time with this steaming pile yet another time. Don't they have anything better to do?


6 posted on 06/29/2005 6:06:58 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES!!)
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A Gannett editor? No surprise there. Every town serviced by a Gannett rag knows many of the editors who are hired already have probably burned flags.


7 posted on 06/29/2005 6:07:12 AM PDT by SoDak (can't sleep, can't ever sleep)
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...follows its silly siblings in the House of Representatives...

Those "silly siblings", Cunningham, so blithely talks about are the men and women American voters have put in office. So, by extension those "silly siblings" are the American voters.

I'd love to see her burn a flag and do a perp walk. Of course there'd be a claque of anti-American leftists cheering her on, but that's to be expected.

8 posted on 06/29/2005 6:07:15 AM PDT by Noachian (To Control the Judiciary The People Must First Control The Senate)
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I believe in what the American flag symbolizes. I do not believe in creating graven images, so to speak, that must be worshipped.
You also don't believe in national sovereignty defended by soldiers who have pledged alegiance to what the flag symbolizes. Since your position is infantile and clearly anticonstitutional, it is irrelevant.

9 posted on 06/29/2005 6:08:45 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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The Flag Code: Title 4, Chapter 1: Sec. 8. — Respect for flag No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.

The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.

The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.

The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.

The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.

The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.

The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling.

The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.

The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.

The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.

No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.

The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning

Sec. 9. — Conduct during hoisting, lowering or passing of flag During the ceremony of hoisting or lowering the flag or when the flag is passing in a parade or in review, all persons present except those in uniform should face the flag and stand at attention with the right hand over the heart. Those present in uniform should render the military salute. When not in uniform, men should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Aliens should stand at attention. The salute to the flag in a moving column should be rendered at the moment the flag passes

Sec. 10. — Modification of rules and customs by President Any rule or custom pertaining to the display of the flag of the United States of America, set forth herein, may be altered, modified, or repealed, or additional rules with respect thereto may be prescribed, by the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States, whenever he deems it to be appropriate or desirable; and any such alteration or additional rule shall be set forth in a proclamation.

10 posted on 06/29/2005 6:11:19 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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Damn, this is a silly law.

Still, if you paint your property in the stars and stripes, maybe the state will think twice about bulldozing it for eminent domain.


12 posted on 06/29/2005 6:13:35 AM PDT by agere_contra
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Linda Grist Cunningham.
Beware of women with three names.
14 posted on 06/29/2005 6:15:08 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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Until some way is found to return the supreme court to its original purpose, amendments to the constitution are a waste of time. However clearly and simply the amendment is written, the court will interpret it to mean what they want to mean.


16 posted on 06/29/2005 6:15:32 AM PDT by Moosilauke
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How about every one burning their USA Today and other Gannet subscriptions? I canceled my local liberal rag about 6 years ago. Palm Beach com-Post. These scum won't stop attacking this country until we stop sending them $$$$$$$.


17 posted on 06/29/2005 6:15:38 AM PDT by Ron in Acreage (It's the borders stupid! "ALLEN IN 08")
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If the Flag is not sacred, neither is the Constitution. We are seeing both trampled, and while I support a ban on the burning of the American Flag except for the proper retirement of a worn out Flag, I would prefer to see a companion bill which would compell our government to dispose of ANY law or legislation which violates the Constitution of the United States, in addition to requiring the mandatory impeachment and removal of any judge or official who bases their decisions upon ANY foreign law or legislation, any U.N. proclamation, in fact ANY document except for the Constitution.

Of course to enact THAT sort of sweeping legislation would require another confrontation on the order of Lexington and Concord, and our imperial masters in Washington are not about to stand for that.

So suck it up you peasants, the Flag has already been virtually burned by those in Washington who have betrayed the Constitution and our Republic. This proposed law, while certainly based on good intentions, is a classic case of closing the barn door after the animals have run out.


18 posted on 06/29/2005 6:19:19 AM PDT by Mad Mammoth
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If the Senate passes the anti-flag burning amendment, I'll burn the flag. I can't belive that Congress continues to waste time politically grandstanding on the flag issue, while it does nothing to end the invasion across our southern borders. If Congress feels compelled to amend the Constitution, how about a clause that prohibits government from taking private property for the benefit of private developers.


19 posted on 06/29/2005 6:19:47 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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Since the Republic and the Constitution that the flag represents have been shredded, what does it matter if one burns a piece of cloth that is meaningless.

Instead of worrying about people burning a small piece of their personal property, everyone should be trying to stop Jorge Arbusta from dissolving the remains of the nation into the North American Community.


20 posted on 06/29/2005 6:20:03 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google search North American Community.)
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A good link with almost every pro/con argument out there for this issue:

http://www.debatabase.org/details.asp?topicID=175


23 posted on 06/29/2005 6:23:32 AM PDT by contemplator
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"Burning the flag...isn't going to bring down the 'Murican Way of Life.

I don't see that term "Murican" used by anyone who is not a liberal. Libs use it to mock the sensibly conservative average American and depict him as an illiterate redneck.

Good point made about conservatives who oppose the flag-burning ban. We don't take the opportunity to run out and burn a flag. Enough of them burned in battles where Americans died defending liberty.

24 posted on 06/29/2005 6:24:20 AM PDT by Graymatter
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The real question is, what will the judges decide. Since we've evidently adopted the judicial form of government, the actions of the Congress can only be taken as advisory.


25 posted on 06/29/2005 6:27:56 AM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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The lamestream media again illustrates its rank hypocrisy. They always claim to defend the first amendment....when it suits them. They are the biggest cheerleaders for campaign finance reform that would limit a citizens freedom of speech by limiting donations. WHY? because the media would get more power and influence.


26 posted on 06/29/2005 6:28:20 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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