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TROUBLE SPEAKS -- Ward Churchill backs fragging
World Net Daily ^ | 06/26/05 | staff at World Net Daily

Posted on 06/27/2005 5:30:51 AM PDT by mware

TROUBLE SPEAK

Ward Churchill backs fragging

Controversial '9-11 prof' suggests rolling grenades under line officers

Posted: June 26, 2005

10:39 p.m. Eastern

© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

Prof. Ward Churchill

University of Colorado professor Ward Churchill suggested to a forum on conscientious objection they might be more effective in opposing war if they supported the "fragging" or killing of line officers.

In a Portland meeting on resistance to military recruiting, Churchill, famous for comparing Sept. 11, 2001, victims in the World Trade Center to "little Eichmanns," twice suggested anti-war activists should support those who kill their officers.

"For those of you who do, as a matter of principle, oppose war in any form, the idea of supporting a conscientious objector who's already been inducted [and] in his combat service in Iraq might have a certain appeal," he said. "But let me ask you this: Would you render the same support to someone who hadn't conscientiously objected, but rather instead rolled a grenade under their line officer in order to neutralize the combat capacity of their unit?"

Later, in a question-and-answer period, Churchill was asked whether the trauma "fragging" inflicts on that officer's family back home should be considered, he responded: "How do you feel about Adolf Eichmann's family?"

Earlier, Churchill blamed the five-month-old controversy over his post-Sept. 11 essay on a faulty grammar-checker.

He did not intend to suggest the 9-11 victims were "little Eichmanns" he claims now. Instead, he blamed the grammar checker for changing what he says he actually wrote: "little Entenmanns" -- referring to the brand of pastries.

"My metaphorical use of food in the essay is, of course, complex to the layman, but surely you've all heard the expression 'as American as apple pie,'" he said. "Well, I'd meant to relate the 'Americanness' and 'lovability' of those poor people who died on 9-11 to the well-known popularity of Entenmann's glazed donuts."


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When is this man going to be arrested for advocating murder.
1 posted on 06/27/2005 5:30:52 AM PDT by mware
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To: mware

When is he going to be at least fired? Thanks for finding the story.


2 posted on 06/27/2005 5:32:51 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach

It's better when Kiran Chetry tells it.


3 posted on 06/27/2005 5:34:18 AM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: mware

Gosh Ward, that opens the door to all kinds of things....

...like rolling a hand grenade under the desk of lying traitorous plagiarzing traitorous college professors.

I don't thing ya wanna be going there.


4 posted on 06/27/2005 5:34:59 AM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: mware

This SOB is buying a $*!t load of bad Karma and, hopefully, a good ole ass whoopin sometime in the not too distant future.


5 posted on 06/27/2005 5:35:31 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: mware
Later, in a question-and-answer period, Churchill was asked whether the trauma "fragging" inflicts on that officer's family back home should be considered, he responded: "How do you feel about Adolf Eichmann's family?"

No surprise that this guy can't stop shooting himself.

Wouldn't surprise me too much if someone ultimately rolls a grenade in his direction.

6 posted on 06/27/2005 5:36:18 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: mware

Does the USA no longer have any criteria for prosecuting sedition?

If a "college professor" (c'mon UC- is this idiot still on the PAYROLL????) stands up and advocates killing police or opposition party politicians ...or abortionists....is that free speech?

What do the families of Colorado's uniformed miliary officers have to say about this man being paid by their tax dollars?


7 posted on 06/27/2005 5:37:14 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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He did not intend to suggest the 9-11 victims were "little Eichmanns" he claims now. Instead, he blamed the grammar checker for changing what he says he actually wrote: "little Entenmanns" -- referring to the brand of pastries.

Is this scrappleface or the Onion?

8 posted on 06/27/2005 5:37:44 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: mware
My metaphorical use of food in the essay is, of course, complex to the layman, but surely you've all heard the expression 'as American as apple pie,'" he said. "Well, I'd meant to relate the 'Americanness' and 'lovability' of those poor people who died on 9-11 to the well-known popularity of Entenmann's glazed donuts."

Notice the extra slap in the face with the Entermann comment.

9 posted on 06/27/2005 5:39:24 AM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche........ "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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NOW can he be arrested for Treason/Sedition?

CHAPTER 115 - TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES

Section 2385. Advocating overthrow of Government

Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof - Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction. If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction. As used in this section, the terms ''organizes'' and ''organize'', with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.

Section 2387. Activities affecting armed forces generally

(a) Whoever, with intent to interfere with, impair, or influence the loyalty, morale, or discipline of the military or naval forces of the United States: (1) advises, counsels, urges, or in any manner causes or attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the military or naval forces of the United States; or (2) distributes or attempts to distribute any written or printed matter which advises, counsels, or urges insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the military or naval forces of the United States - Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction. (b) For the purposes of this section, the term ''military or naval forces of the United States'' includes the Army of the United States, the Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard, Naval Reserve, Marine Corps Reserve, and Coast Guard Reserve of the United States; and, when any merchant vessel is commissioned in the Navy or is in the service of the Army or the Navy, includes the master, officers, and crew of such vessel.

Section 2388. Activities affecting armed forces during war

(a) Whoever, when the United States is at war, willfully makes or conveys false reports or false statements with intent to interfere with the operation or success of the military or naval forces of the United States or to promote the success of its enemies; or Whoever, when the United States is at war, willfully causes or attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty, in the military or naval forces of the United States, or willfully obstructs the recruiting or enlistment service of the United States, to the injury of the service or the United States, or attempts to do so - Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both. (b) If two or more persons conspire to violate subsection (a) of this section and one or more such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each of the parties to such conspiracy shall be punished as provided in said subsection (a). (c) Whoever harbors or conceals any person who he knows, or has reasonable grounds to believe or suspect, has committed, or is about to commit, an offense under this section, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both. (d) This section shall apply within the admiralty and maritime jurisdiction of the United States, and on the high seas, as well as within the United States.

Section 2389. Recruiting for service against United States

Whoever recruits soldiers or sailors within the United States, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction thereof, to engage in armed hostility against the same; or Whoever opens within the United States, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction thereof, a recruiting station for the enlistment of such soldiers or sailors to serve in any manner in armed hostility against the United States - Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

10 posted on 06/27/2005 5:40:54 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: mware

Ward is still around? He's got to be in the 59th second of the 14th minute of his 15 minutes of fame.


11 posted on 06/27/2005 5:41:25 AM PDT by ko_kyi
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To: mware

When is he going to be fragged?!


12 posted on 06/27/2005 5:42:06 AM PDT by Bear_Slayer (DOC - 81mm Mortars, Wpns Co. 2/3 KMCAS 86-89)
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To: mware

The Entenmann's reference qualifies this piece as parody, correct? This cannot be an actual article.


13 posted on 06/27/2005 5:42:14 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: ko_kyi

I can not understand how this guy has not been fired much less arrested.


14 posted on 06/27/2005 5:42:30 AM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche........ "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: mware

I wonder what editor he is using since Eichmann does not show up in my Microsoft Word thesaurus.


15 posted on 06/27/2005 5:43:01 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: wideawake

This is a true story. World Net Daily has it as the lead, and Fox & Friends reported it about 15 minutes ago.


16 posted on 06/27/2005 5:43:22 AM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche........ "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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Is this scrappleface or the Onion?

Am I missing some sort of punch line? This is too weird to believe.

17 posted on 06/27/2005 5:43:39 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (If their Chief of police is okay with it, I am guessing that we should probably be okay with it.)
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To: mware

Why haven't they arrested this guy for treason yet?


18 posted on 06/27/2005 5:43:58 AM PDT by kharaku (G3)
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To: wideawake

The Entermann's comment is just his way of slapping the faces of those who he insulted in the first place.


19 posted on 06/27/2005 5:44:27 AM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche........ "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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"University of Colorado professor Ward Churchill suggested to a forum on conscientious objection they might be more effective in opposing war if they supported the "fragging" or killing of line officers."

I support fragging Ward Churchill.


20 posted on 06/27/2005 5:45:04 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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