(Re Rove Remarks):Thousands Attend Anti-War Rally

FoxNews.Com ^ | Sunday, September 30, 2001

[MRMEAN]

WASHINGTON — Banging drums, singing songs and waving giant puppets, several thousand anti-war demonstrators marched Sunday to call for peace following the terrorist attacks.

"Now is when you should question the president," said Scott Morschhauser, 37, who came from Bettendorf, Iowa with a large American flag, its field of stars replaced with a peace symbol. "At times of emergency the decisions made have repercussions 10 or 20 years from now."

The peace rally and march had a festive atmosphere, with families spreading out picnic blankets in a park and performers leading the crowd in songs with lyrics such as "No more killing, no more war, no more violence anymore."

[MRMEAN]

From the New York Times "Letters to the Editor" section, October 2, 2001:

October 2, 2001

The Fight Ahead: Can We Learn From the Past?

o the Editor:

Re "Bush Approves Covert Aid for Taliban Foes" (front page, Oct. 1):

Have we learned nothing from our history? The United States has consistently fought its wars abroad by supporting local rebel forces. Many Taliban leaders and members of Osama bin Laden's network were the "freedom fighters" we armed and trained to fight the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. They were our friends then; they are our enemies now.

What makes us think that the anti- Taliban rebels we support today won't be our enemies tomorrow, heavily armed and highly trained by American taxpayer money? Why are we perpetuating the cycle of violence? Could we not find a long-term, political solution?

LAURA RÓTOLO
Medford, Mass., Oct. 1, 2001

•

To the Editor:

Two Oct. 1 front-page articles should provide a cautionary, and sobering, tale for those planning or endorsing our nation's "war on terrorism."

"Bush Approves Covert Aid for Taliban Foes" describes how millions of dollars are flooding into Afghanistan to help opposition groups overthrow the current Taliban government.

The obituary of Nguyen Van Thieu, a former president of South Vietnam, notes that he was the recipient of similar largess when our country got involved in comparable efforts to overthrow and then influence the selection of new governments in his country.

MICHAEL J. SULLIVAN
Philadelphia, Oct. 1, 2001
The writer is a professor of political science at Drexel University.

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Patriotism and Dissent

To the Editor:

I am grateful for Maureen Dowd's re-evaluation of the now rather carelessly bandied-about term "patriotism" (column, Sept. 30). If we are really proud to be Americans, we should be especially proud of our freedom to dissent.

If President Bush can rally the public around the claim that the terrorists made a symbolic attack on our freedoms, it would be ironic if the administration then boldly proceeded to continue that attack on more concrete terms. Our intolerance for censorship, one-sided propaganda and violation of civil rights is exactly what distinguishes us from the Taliban regime.

A crowd rooting for the home football team is one thing, but nobody appreciates a discussion section for a class that is dominated by only the professor's point of view. The two are very different, and Americans will not tolerate the latter.

JANET KIM
New Haven, Sept. 30, 2001

[jdm]

"said Scott Morschhauser, 37, who came from Bettendorf, Iowa with a large American flag, its field of stars replaced with a peace symbol."

What a dork.

[anniegetyourgun]

What is it with libs and puppets?

[FairOpinion]

Excellent find.

Thanks for posting.

And this is three weeks after 3000 innocent Americans were murdered by the terrorists!

[FlingWingFlyer]

Sex! Drugs! and Rock 'n' Roll!!! These "anti-war rallies" are where losers go to score drugs and pick up women.

[FairOpinion]

Note the full title of the article:

Thousands Attend Anti-War Rally, March to Oppose Military Retaliation for Attacks

[OldFriend]

The cut and run brigade. Imitating the french.

[pollyannaish]

Bwahahaha! That's funny on so many levels.

[cripplecreek]

The interesting thing is the fact that these idiots can only tolerate their own point of view. Contrast this statement...

"A crowd rooting for the home football team is one thing, but nobody appreciates a discussion section for a class that is dominated by only the professor's point of view. The two are very different, and Americans will not tolerate the latter."

With this one from an earlier thread. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1431101/posts

"Four protestors were arrested, including two who were among a group that sneaked into the meeting and disrupted it with loud chants of "fascists go home.""

[FairOpinion]

I just found more:

Encyclopedia: Post-September 11 anti-war movement

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Post_September-11-anti_war-movement

"On the left, condemnation of the attacks was equally general, although often including (even in the days immediately after the attack) condemnation of ostensibly related aspects of U.S. policies. Noam Chomsky's statement in the immediate wake of the attacks begins by condemning this "major atrocit[y]" and "horrendous crime", but also by contextualizing it in terms of the Clinton-era U.S. attack on the Al-Shifa pharmaceutical factory and prefiguring what would be a widespread concern for the left worldwide: "...the crime is a gift to the hard jingoist right, those who hope to use force to control their domains." [9] (http://www.zmag.org/chomnote.htm) Similarly, from Vijay Prashad, "The attacks must be condemned without reservation. But we must be certain to recognize that these are probably the work of frustrated and alienated human beings hemmed in by forces that are anonymous and that could only be embodied by these structures." [10] (http://www.zmag.org/prashadcalam.htm) Martin Woollacott, writing in The Guardian, called the attacks, "above all a stupendous crime," but also wrote, "America's best defence against terrorism originating from abroad remains the existence of governments and societies more or less satisfied with American even-handedness on issues which are important to them. Plainly, this is furthest from the case in the Muslim world." [11] (http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0,1300,550464,00.html) Avram Noam Chomsky (born December 7, 1928) is an Institute Professor Emeritus of linguistics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and creator of the Chomsky hierarchy, a classification of formal languages. ... Order: 42nd President Vice President: Al Gore Term of office: January 20, 1993 – January 20, 2001 Preceded by: George H. W. Bush Succeeded by: George W. Bush Date of birth: August 19, 1946 Place of birth: Hope, Arkansas First Lady: Hillary Rodham Clinton Political party: Democratic William Jefferson Clinton (born... On August 20, 1998, the al-Shifa (Health) pharmaceutical factory in Khartoum, Sudan, was destroyed in cruise missile strikes launched by the United States in retaliation for the August 7 truck bomb attacks on its embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya, in which 225 people were killed... The Guardian is a British newspaper owned by the Guardian Media Group. ... "


Perfect illustration that Rove's comments were right on the mark!

[armymarinemom]

"said Scott Morschhauser, 37, who came from Bettendorf, Iowa with a large American flag, its field of stars replaced with a peace symbol." What a dork.

A couple in our town who lived on the highway that serves traffic from the coast to mid Maine cities put a flag up like that right after 9/11. The flag was so large that it touched the ground. Irritated a lot of us driving back and forth every day. They finally moved. The good news is that the facsimile flag rotted their porch during the two years that it hung there.

[muawiyah]

These people probably don't realize that I and tens of millions of other Americans continue to hold this particular group of demonstrators wholly responsible for the murder of over one-half million Vietnamese men, women and children in the South China sea after the North Vietnamese government overran the area.

The only reasons these jerks get to beat their drums is because the law has not yet matured enough to allow us to take revenge.

[KStorm]

Bwahahaha! That's funny on so many levels.
:
No, it's not.

[pollyannaish]

Yes I know. Ok, gallows humor. I'm sorry. ; )

[FairOpinion]

"Drawing on that party's tight organization, ANSWER attracted an estimated 20,000 people to their first major action, an "Anti-War, Anti-Racist" rally and march in Washington, D.C., primarily in protest of the then impending invasion of Afghanistan. This rally occurred on September 29, 2001, a mere 18 days after the September 11 attacks. This rally happened several hours after the first national protest against the war, an unpermitted march of 2,000 through the streets of Washington which had been organized by the Anti-Capitalist Convergence. The International Action Center is an activist group founded by former United States attorney general Ramsey Clark, with the goal of coordinating activism and information opposing domestic and international injustices.

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Post_September-11-anti_war-movement

[KStorm]

Gallows humor is almost appropriate for leftist wimps who think their wishes for the world alone will allow us to live in reasonable peace and safety. I truly believe they are cursed.

[FairOpinion]

Anti-war rallies in Washington, New York

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/29/ret.antiwar.protests/

September 29, 2001


Chanting "no war, no war," protesters marched with banners calling for the United States to "Destroy imperialism, not Afghanistan."

"When someone in the United States commits an atrocious crime as in an act of murder, we don't go after their families or their community or their neighborhood," one demonstrator said. "We go in and we arrest the individuals involved, and I think that's what needs to be done here."

"War is not the answer, Islam is not the problem," they chanted as they walked.

[tillacum]

Shades of the 60s malcontent hippies....hmmmm...same ole, same ole, not even original songs. Same ole, same ole.

[Doe Eyes]

a large American flag, its field of stars replaced with a peace symbol.

I'm assuming that this is not an American Flag.

What is the defintion in our proposed Constitutional Amendment?

[tobyhill]

Now that the MSM has gotten their Vietnam style protest, will they please stop their damn crap?