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To: cinives
1. the person who had the most to gain from her death was the only person to have heard her utter the "don't want to live" statement.

The settlement money had already been spent. This charge was made and rejected in 1998.

2. There was no written declaration of her wish

Terri told her husband that she didn't want to be kept alive. Genesis 2:23:

And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. {24} Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

What part of those vows don't you understand?

4. the parents offered to care for her themselves - so why not let them ? What did the husband lose by it ? Why didn't he just get a divorce and marry the woman he'd lived with for 10 years ?

Because Terri's wish was not to be kept alive in a PVS. Michael was honoring her wish. What if your wife said she wouldn't want to be kept alive in a PVS but your wife's family disagreed?

11 posted on 06/16/2005 7:31:52 AM PDT by Jibaholic (The facts of life are conservative - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Jibaholic

Oh please...
He amazingly remembered this so called request 7 YEARS AFTER THE TUBE WAS PUT IN!!!
Terri's friend was instructed by attorneys NOT to mention the fact she was planning to divorce him.
Get with the facts, not just your holier than thou remarks on the sanctitiy of marriage. I bet God has a thing or two to say about abuse withinin a "marriage".


12 posted on 06/16/2005 7:38:42 AM PDT by jackv
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To: Jibaholic
Terri told her husband that she didn't want to be kept alive.

Why did it take so long for him to suddenly remember she had said that?

Always err on the side of life if there is ANY doubt.

13 posted on 06/16/2005 7:39:29 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: Jibaholic

We only have MS's statement that Terri said she did not want to be kept alive. MS lied about Terri's food disorder and having a heart problem. We now know from the autopsy that she had neither. So why should we believe now that he told the truth about her wishes to die? NO ONE WANTS TO BE STARVED TO DEATH. As long as the parents were willing to care for their daughter, she should have been placed with them. The state had no right to take her life. Only God has the right to take a life. And if you don't believe that, you are no better than a pig wallowing in mud.


34 posted on 06/16/2005 8:33:18 AM PDT by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: Jibaholic
What part of those vows don't you understand?

I don't see a stipulation in the vows anywhere where it says it is ok that he shacks up with another woman and has kids with her just because his wife is ill. In fact, my wedding vows said through sickness and health. Adultery is the one sin that is acceptable grounds for divorce. MS broke his vows and therefore forfeited his rights.

51 posted on 06/16/2005 9:10:18 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Jibaholic
The settlement money had already been spent. This charge was made and rejected in 1998.

Gain comes in forms other than cash. How about he gets to have control over another human life and play God, then marry his long-term paramour after his wife is starved and dehydrated to death.

Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

What is it about adultery don't you understand ? Does adultery include the concept of "cleaving to his wife", or did he break his vows ? Wait, maybe that's called polygamy - you marry one and have a common law one... nice double standard there.

Terri told her husband that she didn't want to be kept alive. Genesis 2:23:

Right after she was declared PVS, he said he'd care for her for the rest of her life - no declaration of her wish to die under such circumstances surfaced until years later. After 7 years and several children with another woman later, he suddenly declares she wouldn't want to be kept alive. Why would you suddenly believe him after 7 years of saying the exact opposite ? He suddenly had a flashback that so conveniently released him from his obligations towards her ?

You didn't answer my question - if you became vegetative, you had no written directive and had not expressed an opinion to anyone other than your wife, and your wife was living with and had children with another man - you would want your wife to be able to starve and dehydrate you ? You think her judgement, under those circumstances, would be all about your best interest ?

64 posted on 06/16/2005 9:37:58 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Jibaholic

Back to the Bible verse, my wedding vows were to love, honor and obey. The Bible says that the husband is to love his wife as Christ loves the Church. There is no evidence of Michael's love for Terri.

The above poster is correct. Much spousal abuse does not leave lasting evidence except in the heart.


131 posted on 06/16/2005 12:38:27 PM PDT by goosie
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To: Jibaholic
Because Terri's wish was not to be kept alive in a PVS. Michael was honoring her wish. What if your wife said she wouldn't want to be kept alive in a PVS but your wife's family disagreed?

Michael Shiavo may have been more believable on that issue if his abandoned wife's family did not have to leave messages for him through his common-law wife -- and mother of his children -- to discuss this issue regarding his abandoned wife.

176 posted on 06/16/2005 1:24:41 PM PDT by Ghengis (Alexander was a wuss!)
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