ACLU threatens talk-show hosts over cross - (Roger Hedgecock, Rick Roberts threatened)

WORLD NET DAILY.COM ^ | JUNE 3, 2005 | James L. Lambert

[CHARLITE]

The ACLU, representing an atheist, is threatening five San Diego-area personalities with legal action over the proposed wording of a ballot initiative that will determine the fate of a historic cross on city land.

The five behind the Mt. Soledad initiative are KFMB radio talk-show host Rick Roberts; KOGO radio talk-show host Roger Hedgecock; San Diego Padres radio announcer Jerry Coleman, Rep. Randy Cunningham, R-Calif.; and SoledadNational.com Director Phil Thalmeimer.

The attorney for atheist Philip Paulson, James McElroy, has told the men he will file the challenge next week.

McElroy claims that a number of their statements on the ballot, prepared for the July 26 city-wide vote, are "false and misleading."

Some statements at issue include, "as in the case with Mount Soledad, wherever veterans are honored with the symbols of the fallen, an intolerant few will launch frivolous lawsuits that waste our tax dollars … ."

Another statement under challenge is, "in 2004, the president of the United States signed legislation designating the Mount Soledad site as a 'National War Memorial,' necessitating the land transfer."

McElroy also objects to the sentence, "Vote Yes to transfer the land to the federal government and to permanently preserve Mount Soledad -- as it is where it is."

Last month, the San Diego City Council allowed voters to decide the fate of the historic cross, which overlooks the Pacific Ocean in nearby La Jolla. The legal battles date back to 1989.

Roberts said today he and the others "will defend the wording in court."

While there has been "a legal challenge against all five of us, I think we will prevail in court," he said.

Roberts stressed that the issue is important for those who want to preserve the heritage of San Diego, which includes the La Jolla cross. Donations for that cause are being taken by both radio announcers and SoledadNational.com.

Roberts also is a regular guest host for Michael Savage's nationally syndicated radio show. Hedgecock substitutes for Rush Limbaugh occasionally. Coleman will be inducted this summer in the Baseball Hall of Fame as a radio announcer.

[EagleUSA]

The ACLU is on a short rope. I think they have p'd-off the wrong people. These arrogant Communists are going to get their comeuppance in spades.

[onyx]

OUR friends will prevail. The wording will remain just as it is.

[Dr.Hilarious]

The ACLU used to be a leftist group which was a valuable opposition to the government, which should ALWAYS be questioned and kept on its toes in terms of protecting the rights of the individual.

Now they're just commie hacks.

[Txsleuth]

How can our soldier's lives and careers be in jeopardy because of a water-balloon fight in Gitmo----

and yet on our OWN soil, Americans are being taken to court over wanting a cross to stand on public land?

How does this happen, and what are WE THE PEOPLE going to do about it?

[YOUGOTIT]

In my humble opinion this James McElroy is the one who is misleading. Since the founder of his organization was a known Communist who founded the ACLU to covertly destroy the United States and place it under Communist rule the first thing that must be done is the destruction of religion and the family. The ACLU is doing both. This separation of church thing is a lie and misleading, there is nothing in the Constitution that says there is a separation. The first ruling I can find was from a racist member of the KKK who was appointed to the Supreme Court by a democrat. He hated Catholics and put in a court ruling that there was a separation that must be maintained between church and state. So we have a unconsitutions ruling by a member of the KKK who was a racist and a Catholic hater as the basis for this separation crap.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Their next step will be to remove religious symbols from national cemeteries.

[Casaubon]

they have always been commie hacks...they are just more upfront with it now.

[CHARLITE]

"How does this happen, and what are WE THE PEOPLE going to do about it?"

For starters, I would say that this liberal "judicial creep" is the most important reason for making SURE that President Bush's nominees for the Circuit and (soon) the Supreme Court are voted UP.

Char :)

[Constitution1st]

You are right on target! Many Americans want to see them disbanded. They are nothing but a communist group.

[onyx]

For a start; Power is currently granted unto one, single judge, who can overturn the votes of the people. That power needs to be taken from the one and given to a power of no fewer than three.

[Noumenon]

The local ACLU office is high on my list of Places to Go and Things to Do when that inevitable Day arrives. No mercy. No remorse.

[Txsleuth]

Well, I hope John McCain and his 6 dwarfs are proud of themselves...I hope someone will "connect the dots" for them, and tell them how far reaching their stupid committee has affected and will affect every American---even military!

BTW, that story that came out tonight that the Pentagon has confirmed that there WERE instances of the Koran being "abused" in Gitmo---? According to what I heard on the news, they found 5 instances with the US soldiers, 2 on purpose, 3 accidental.

BUT, they found 15 detainee incidents of desecrating the koran!!! 15!!!!!

[TXBubba]

atheist Philip Paulson

Hmmm...two nice New Testament names there.

[ViLaLuz]

Please take a moment to take action that will stop the ACLU...

By supporting a new bill recently introduced, you can help cut off taxpayer support of the ACLU:

Public Expression of Religion Act of 2005

Information here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1413875/posts

There you will find information about the bill, links to contact your congressmen and state representatives, and links to Stop the ACLU, among others.

[Morgan's Raider]

Note to Claire Wolfe:

Is it still too early?

[Nasty McPhilthy]

Feed'm fish heads.

[Disambiguator]

The origin of the phrase "separation of church and state" is a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist Church. It was co-opted by the commies and has been misused in an extensive propaganda campaign that has been going on for years.

Here is the text of the letter:

To messers. Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.

Gentlemen

The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.

I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem.

Th Jefferson
Jan. 1. 1802

[NordP]

Agreed! Another noble mission and another just cause.

[USAfearsnobody]

To ACLU: Sue this.