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The Smithsonian withdraws sponsorship of intelligent design film
NY Times ^ | 6/3/05

Posted on 06/03/2005 6:25:25 PM PDT by Crackingham

The Smithsonian Institution's National Museum of Natural History has withdrawn its co-sponsorship of a showing later this month of a film that supports the theory of "intelligent design."

The museum said it would not cancel the screening of the film, "The Privileged Planet," but would return the $16,000 that the Discovery Institute, an organization that promotes a skeptical view of the Darwinian theory of evolution, had paid it.

Proposals for events at the National Museum of Natural History are reviewed by members of the staff, and it shares sponsorship of all events. After the news of the showing caused controversy, however, officials of the museum screened "Privileged Planet" for themselves.

"The major problem with the film is the wrap-up," said Randall Kremer, a museum spokesman.

"It takes a philosophical bent rather than a clear statement of the science, and that's where we part ways with them."

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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1 posted on 06/03/2005 6:25:25 PM PDT by Crackingham
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To: VadeRetro; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Doctor Stochastic; js1138; Shryke; RightWhale; ...
EvolutionPing
A pro-evolution science list with over 280 names.
See the list's description at my freeper homepage.
Then FReepmail to be added or dropped.

2 posted on 06/03/2005 6:31:28 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: Crackingham

bump


3 posted on 06/03/2005 6:32:22 PM PDT by Salman
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To: PatrickHenry

Not enough information to form an opinion.


4 posted on 06/03/2005 6:32:51 PM PDT by js1138 (e unum pluribus)
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To: All
Earlier thread (last week) on this topic:
Smithsonian to Screen a Movie That Makes a Case Against Evolution.
5 posted on 06/03/2005 6:33:51 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Guaranteed...someone will comment that the Smithsonian is run by godless heathens.
6 posted on 06/03/2005 6:36:06 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I just got my free credit report....cost me $69.95......I'm not paying the bill. I'm doomed!!)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

Well, it is.


7 posted on 06/03/2005 6:44:47 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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This is from a Washington Post article (which we can't post in its entiret):
Last week, Denyse O'Leary, a Canadian author sympathetic to the intelligent design movement, posted on her blog that the Smithsonian, in a "stunning development," was going to screen the documentary. The New York Times picked up the story Saturday.

The news spread across science blogs -- especially those dedicated to the evolution debate.

When Randi heard the story, he says he called the Smithsonian offering the institution $20,000 not to show the film.

"They are renting the place for this creationist film, but apparently [the Smithsonian] didn't know it was creationist film," Randi said from his Fort Lauderdale headquarters. If it was a "matter of money, which I doubt," he said, "then I'm ready to surpass that."

In its statement yesterday, the Smithsonian said it will honor the agreement to screen the film June 23, but that it does not endorse the film and will not accept the agreed-upon fee offered for the auditorium.

"We're disappointed," Chapman said [Bruce Chapman, president of the Discovery Institute]. "We met all their conditions -- screening the film for them, agreeing [to list the Smithsonian] director's name on the invitation and so forth -- and then some mention of this in the media, and now they want to backtrack to some degree, and we don't get it."


8 posted on 06/03/2005 6:44:56 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: Crackingham
You dare not be "too" open minded in science, lest you incur the wrath of the appointed ones.

Not much has changed since Galileo. Science, and scientists stifle dissent.
9 posted on 06/03/2005 6:49:27 PM PDT by SampleMan
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To: Crackingham
"It takes a philosophical bent rather than a clear statement of the science, and that's where we part ways with them."

That must be the polite way of saying: "It suddenly veers into wild-ass guesses unsupported by any evidence, and that's where we part ways with them."

10 posted on 06/03/2005 6:50:00 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: SampleMan
Not much has changed since Galileo. Science, and scientists stifle dissent.

Huh? Pope Urban VIII was a scientist?

11 posted on 06/03/2005 7:03:45 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor
Try to think big.

Galileo was stifled by those in power, who felt his ideas were threatening. At that time it was the church. Today it is the scientific community. Only evolutionary thought is accepted. Revolutionary thought, counter to accepted theories (treated as fact) are attacked without mercy.

This is true in every field. e.g. New world fire pit carbon dates to 120,000 B.C, the first response is to call the paper's author an idiot.
12 posted on 06/03/2005 7:10:11 PM PDT by SampleMan
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To: Crackingham

Wow. That's twice the Smithsonian has let an ID piece through now. Someone's asleep at the switch.


13 posted on 06/03/2005 7:22:35 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: SampleMan
Galileo was stifled by those in power, who felt his ideas were threatening. At that time it was the church. Today it is the scientific community

Guy, if we were in power, the NSF budget would not be less than what the nation spends on disposable diapers.

14 posted on 06/03/2005 7:25:11 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: SampleMan
Galileo was stifled by those in power, who felt his ideas were threatening. At that time it was the church. Today it is the scientific community

Guy, if we were in power, the NSF budget would not be less than what the nation spends on disposable diapers.

15 posted on 06/03/2005 7:25:13 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: SampleMan
New world fire pit carbon dates to 120,000 B.C, the first response is to call the paper's author an idiot.

Since carbos dating doesn't even work to 100,000 BC, that would be my response, too.

16 posted on 06/03/2005 7:26:33 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Focault's Pendulum

"someone will comment that the Smithsonian is run by godless heathens."


I wish the Smithsonian would publish and put on display the chemical reaction that shows how a non-living thing became alive.

Oh wait....there is no reaction on record.


17 posted on 06/03/2005 7:30:21 PM PDT by American Vet Repairman
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the ping!


18 posted on 06/03/2005 8:32:44 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Focault's Pendulum

Or that they succumbed to secularist pressure. Or the ACLU.


19 posted on 06/03/2005 8:37:57 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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... return the $16,000 that the Discovery Institute,...

They should have kept the money. Moon has plenty.

20 posted on 06/03/2005 8:38:07 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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