Long, detailed....
To: Molly Pitcher
2 posted on
06/01/2005 4:55:33 AM PDT by
Molly Pitcher
(We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*)
To: Molly Pitcher
I wonder how many of the supposedly "moderate" muslim individuals in the US turned out for this event......not many?....none?....we have a serious problem, and they're not doing a thing to help....and they're not leaving, either.
To: Molly Pitcher
There will come a day when Islam will have to be declared incompatible with western society.
To: Molly Pitcher; eyespysomething
Death to Israel does not necessarily mean violence. Jihad can mean a lot of things, he explained
... Okie dokie ...
All things considered, I'll keep my eyes on Ibish if he moves in next door more than I will Dershowitz if he moves in on the other side.
6 posted on
06/01/2005 5:08:23 AM PDT by
SittinYonder
(Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
To: Molly Pitcher
The only Muslims that would show up for a protest against terrorism are Muslims that do not read the Koran.
No wonder they drew a whopping dozen in their march.
When you ask a Muslim if murder is good or bad they ask murder who?
There is not enough room for Islam and Civilization on the same planet. One or the other will be destroyed in the end.
7 posted on
06/01/2005 5:12:23 AM PDT by
American in Israel
(A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
To: Molly Pitcher
major national Muslim organization.. It would be great if true, but really, how 'major' are these guys? I know they have an active and interesting web site, but other than that, what?
To: Molly Pitcher
So much for the notion that
all of islam (or close enough as not to matter) is not the problem. So much also, for the other silly notion that winning their hearts and minds is the proper approach.
Finally, so much for the illusion that if we fight them "over there" we're safe here. Vermin accumulate.
9 posted on
06/01/2005 5:23:07 AM PDT by
Publius6961
(The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen, ignorance and stupidity.)
To: Molly Pitcher
Excellent followup news. Thanks. BTTT.
To: Molly Pitcher
I have been in touch with Free Muslims Against Terrorism and got to know their NY chapter leader. It is unfortunately a very lonely mission for them to undertake. This was an excellent demonstration of the true nature of the so-called "mainstream" Muslim organizations.
12 posted on
06/01/2005 5:28:02 AM PDT by
Ziva
(Americans for National Security Rights (http://securityrights.org))
To: Molly Pitcher
Noticeably missing from the list of over 80 sponsors Nawash rounded up was any of the Muslim groups that claim to be moderates, such as the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) and Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC). Is anyone here surprised?
13 posted on
06/01/2005 5:28:58 AM PDT by
Aquinasfan
(Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
To: Molly Pitcher; Zivasmate
My daughter's high school recently (and unfortunately) invited 5 students from Muslim high schools to speak at her school "to show how much they are like us."
I attended both presentations as both a concerned parent (the only one) and as a journalist. Afterwards, I interviewed each of the students.
One was the son of the Imam of Paterson. Another said she has attended every anti-war protest, and plans to work of "human rights" in the Middle East, after she told me that C.A.I.R. was a professional "human rights advocacy" group.
The Americans were restrained from arguing with their "guests," but one good question got through. When asked about suicide bombing, one Muslim young man replied, "Suicide bombing? What can you say? Well, suicide bombing!" (What the hell does that mean?)
He then went on to explain the suicide bombing "is very controversial in Islam." After all, he related, suicide is not permitted.
He added a story about the importance in Islam of the judge in a crime having to be from the geographic area of the dispute so the judge can "understand the circumstances." I'm not sure if all the students understood that he was saying you Americans can't judge the acts of Muslims from other areas because, essentially, you haven't walked in their moccasins.
Another girl stated that while you shouldn't attack innocent people, suicide bombing is justifiable if your home is being attacked or "to protect your life as a people." That is a loophole big enough to drive a camel through.
All in all, it was an extremely enlightening experience.
15 posted on
06/01/2005 5:41:00 AM PDT by
Ziva
(Americans for National Security Rights (http://securityrights.org))
To: Molly Pitcher; CHARLITE; King Prout; Luigi Vasellini; deaconjim; tiamat; nw_arizona_granny; ...
Excellent post.
Pings for another "enemy is inside the wire" story.
We all knew this, about these groups, but it's nice to have it confirmed so irrefutably. Kudos to Kamal Nawash. Hope he's well armed and alert, 24/7.
16 posted on
06/01/2005 5:54:54 AM PDT by
FreedomPoster
(Official Ruling Class Oligarch Oppressor)
To: Molly Pitcher
Not surprisingly, the leaders of every other major Muslim organization shunned the march and declined to take a public stand against terrorism and extremism. This bears reading over again...
The real questions are, what is this telling us and why aren't we listening?
18 posted on
06/01/2005 6:23:33 AM PDT by
Gritty
("Jihad does not represent a mere excess or defect of Islam, but its timeless core"-Lawrence Auster)
To: Molly Pitcher
20 posted on
06/01/2005 6:50:13 AM PDT by
BayouCoyote
(The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
To: Molly Pitcher
22 posted on
06/01/2005 8:06:01 AM PDT by
CommandoFrank
(Peer into the depths of hell and you will find the face of Islam...)
To: Molly Pitcher; CHARLITE; Ziva
On the subject of CAIR, has anyone seen an update lately on the prosecution of Sami Al-Arian?
26 posted on
06/01/2005 10:06:44 AM PDT by
FreedomPoster
(Official Ruling Class Oligarch Oppressor)
To: Molly Pitcher
At a conference last month, a consultant to the group passed out a MAS paper called, An American perspective on why the U.S. must engage the Muslim Brotherhood.
Perhaps we should engage the Muslim Brotherhood, as soon as we've finished engaging Al-Qaeda.
29 posted on
06/01/2005 4:44:52 PM PDT by
deaconjim
(Freep the world!)
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