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US bid to dominate invites disaster - Gorbachev
Reuters ^ | May 30, 2005 | Robert Evans

Posted on 05/30/2005 10:43:56 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

GENEVA (Reuters) - U.S. efforts to dominate the world could end in disaster, Mikhail Gorbachev, the Soviet Union's last leader who launched an era of cooperation with the United States that ended the Cold War, said on Monday.

A critic of the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003, Gorbachev called for the rapid withdrawal of what he called occupation forces, warning: "The longer they stay, the worse the situation will get.

"You cannot get anywhere ... by trying to dominate," he told a meeting marking the 20th anniversary of his 1985 Geneva summit with U.S. President Ronald Reagan, a turning point in then frigid East-West relations.

"That doesn't work with small countries nowadays, and even less with big ones like Russia, Iran and -- heaven forbid -- China. That way lies disaster," said Gorbachev, who lost his post as president when the Soviet Union broke up in 1991.

"Trying to be a world gendarme today is an illusion. That is not the way ahead, but a blind alley."

Insistence by the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush that it had the right to use nuclear weaponry amounted to renunciation of the course he charted with Reagan and Bush's father in the second half of the 1980s, he said.

If Washington pursued its efforts to put a defensive weapons system in space, the 74-year-old Gorbachev told the meeting at the United Nations European headquarters, "it will spark a new arms race, with all the consequences....

"Surely it would be better if we worked together to eliminate nuclear weapons entirely and to use the resources that freed to eradicate poverty and misery around the globe?" he asked his audience, which included U.S. diplomats.

Gorbachev, who during much of his time in power from 1985 to 1991 also served as Communist Party chief, said he believed Russian President Vladimir Putin was committed to social democratic form of government.

Suggestions often heard in the outside world that Putin, an agent of the KGB security police in Soviet days, was trying to turn the clock back to authoritarian rule showed a lack of understanding of what was happening in the country, he said.

Putin, he said, "inherited from (first Russian president Boris) Yeltsin total chaos, in the economic, financial, political, foreign policy and every other area of national life. He had to bring it all under control.

"Is he succeeding? Perhaps not. Limiting democracy is a mistake ... But the people are on Putin's side because he is trying to solve social problems, to put an end to the poverty in which many live."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: 1worlder; gorbachev; gorby; socialist
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1 posted on 05/30/2005 10:43:57 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Obviously, Gorby should work on containing himself.


2 posted on 05/30/2005 10:46:16 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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He's an idiot and he has to travel outside of Russia to get anyone to listen to him.


3 posted on 05/30/2005 10:47:16 AM PDT by Romanov
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U.S. efforts to dominate the world could end in disaster, Mikhail Gorbachev, the Soviet Union's last leader who launched an era of cooperation with the United States that ended the Cold War, said on Monday.

Nope, no bias there at all.

4 posted on 05/30/2005 10:47:36 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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If Washington pursued its efforts to put a defensive weapons system in space, the 74-year-old Gorbachev told the meeting at the United Nations European headquarters, "it will spark a new arms race, with all the consequences....

If the world was in unison on topics such as Iran, North Korea and others that are arming themselves, then I would agree. However, as long as the world cannot get their act together on this important topic, Gorbachev is preaching to the wrong audience. We need to move forward with 'defense' since the 'world body' is not much of a 'body' after all.

5 posted on 05/30/2005 10:47:38 AM PDT by AgThorn (Bush is my president, but he needs to protect our borders. FIRST, before any talk of "Amnesty.")
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Mikhail Gorbachev, the Soviet Union's last leader who launched an era of cooperation with the United States that ended the Cold War, said on Monday.

The Left spins again! Should read

Mikhail Gorbachev, the Soviet Union's last leader who ass got kicked by Ronald Reagan that forced his weak ineffectual government to surrender the Cold War, said on Monday.

6 posted on 05/30/2005 10:48:17 AM PDT by Bommer
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"Obviously, Gorby should work on containing himself."

Heeeehhe..true, but we can't even contain our own Senators, much less dominate the world...what a joke!


7 posted on 05/30/2005 10:49:16 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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A brand new "Gorbasm" for Rush tomorrow.


8 posted on 05/30/2005 10:49:23 AM PDT by Zivasmate
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We only "dominate" because everyone else sucks. It's not like we're even trying.

Imagine if we did make an effort.


9 posted on 05/30/2005 10:49:32 AM PDT by SteveMcKing
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"Trying to be a world gendarme today is an illusion. That is not the way ahead, but a blind alley."

Gerdarme? How crude, we aren't French policemen.

And we are castitigated by many for not invading Iran, N. Korea, Congo, Liberia, Zimbabwe, Syria, you name it.....as if we could. Gorbachev's a bitter old ketchup-splotched head.

10 posted on 05/30/2005 10:54:25 AM PDT by xJones
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From a 17year old, who is a Reagan fan, didn't we walk out of Geneva?


11 posted on 05/30/2005 10:55:32 AM PDT by DTwistedSisterS
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"Pot, meet kettle"

Gorbachev, or any Soviet leader accusing the U.S. of trying to dominate the world is like Hitler accusing someone of trying to take over Europe, or Saddam accusing someone of being undemocratic.

12 posted on 05/30/2005 10:56:12 AM PDT by guinnessman
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Heeeehhe..true, but we can't even contain our own Senators, much less dominate the world...what a joke!

I'm LOL but it hurts.:) Blast McCain, and the MSM horse he rode in on.

13 posted on 05/30/2005 10:56:22 AM PDT by xJones
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To: Chi-townChief

I think we should thank old Gorby for the good advice. And do exactly the opposite of what he suggests. Since he & his kind are always 180 degrees out of phase, his comments can be useful. Full speed ahead!


14 posted on 05/30/2005 10:59:01 AM PDT by jdsteel (We need 2 new refineries, 20 new nuclear power plants and ANWAR ASAP)
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<< ... Mikhail Gorbachev, the Soviet Union's last leader who launched an era of cooperation with the United States that ended the Cold War ... >>

More Reuters FRogshit!

Mikhail Gorbachev: A marked failure even among the evil empires seven decades and hundreds of millions of bloody failures!


15 posted on 05/30/2005 11:04:03 AM PDT by Brian Allen (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing -- Edmund Burke)
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Poor gorby, he is so used to tyrannical rulers he doesn't know how to act when a benevolent one comes along. Much of the rest of the world just doesn't get it. We are probably one of the few countries that selflessly will help another country achieve freedom and then basically leave. Few other countries even understand the concept.

And as for Pootie poo he is just another in a long line of tinned horned dictators longing for power, he just wants it all.
16 posted on 05/30/2005 11:05:45 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU)
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"You cannot get anywhere ... by trying to dominate," he told a meeting marking the 20th anniversary of his 1985 Geneva summit with U.S. President Ronald Reagan

Actually Gorby, you can. And if anyone should know this, it's you.

Reagan set out to so thoroughly domininate the Soviet Union militarily that any attempt to keep pace would place an intolerable strain on the Soviet regime, expediting its collapse.

And it worked brilliantly.

17 posted on 05/30/2005 11:06:42 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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This from a guy who only got 1% when he faced a real election.


18 posted on 05/30/2005 11:08:35 AM PDT by David1
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Hiya, Gorby!! How's retirement treatin' ya?? ;o)

Be a dear and look up the word "irrelevant" for me, will ya?
19 posted on 05/30/2005 11:08:51 AM PDT by LIConFem (Mein Luftkissenboot ist mit Aalen voll.)
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To: Romanov

Well, he does just follow the map on his forehead.


20 posted on 05/30/2005 11:09:45 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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