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2050 - and immortality is within our grasp: an extraordinary vision of life in the next 45 years
Guardian UK ^ | May 22, 2005 | David Smith

Posted on 05/22/2005 1:38:43 PM PDT by billorites

Aeroplanes will be too afraid to crash, yoghurts will wish you good morning before being eaten and human consciousness will be stored on supercomputers, promising immortality for all - though it will help to be rich. These fantastic claims are not made by a science fiction writer or a crystal ball-gazing lunatic. They are the deadly earnest predictions of Ian Pearson, head of the futurology unit at BT.

'If you draw the timelines, realistically by 2050 we would expect to be able to download your mind into a machine, so when you die it's not a major career problem,' Pearson told The Observer. 'If you're rich enough then by 2050 it's feasible. If you're poor you'll probably have to wait until 2075 or 2080 when it's routine. We are very serious about it. That's how fast this technology is moving: 45 years is a hell of a long time in IT.'

Pearson, 44, has formed his mind-boggling vision of the future after graduating in applied mathematics and theoretical physics, spending four years working in missile design and the past 20 years working in optical networks, broadband network evolution and cybernetics in BT's laboratories. He admits his prophecies are both 'very exciting' and 'very scary'.

He believes that today's youngsters may never have to die, and points to the rapid advances in computing power demonstrated last week, when Sony released the first details of its PlayStation 3. It is 35 times more powerful than previous games consoles. 'The new PlayStation is 1 per cent as powerful as a human brain,' he said. 'It is into supercomputer status compared to 10 years ago. PlayStation 5 will probably be as powerful as the human brain.'

The world's fastest computer, IBM's BlueGene, can perform 70.72 trillion calculations per second (teraflops) and is accelerating all the time. But anyone who believes in the uniqueness of consciousness or the soul will find Pearson's next suggestion hard to swallow. 'We're already looking at how you might structure a computer that could possibly become conscious. There are quite a lot of us now who believe it's entirely feasible.

'We don't know how to do it yet but we've begun looking in the same directions, for example at the techniques we think that consciousness is based on: information comes in from the outside world but also from other parts of your brain and each part processes it on an internal sensing basis. Consciousness is just another sense, effectively, and that's what we're trying to design in a computer. Not everyone agrees, but it's my conclusion that it is possible to make a conscious computer with superhuman levels of intelligence before 2020.'

He continued: 'It would definitely have emotions - that's one of the primary reasons for doing it. If I'm on an aeroplane I want the computer to be more terrified of crashing than I am so it does everything to stay in the air until it's supposed to be on the ground.

'You can also start automating an awful lots of jobs. Instead of phoning up a call centre and getting a machine that says, "Type 1 for this and 2 for that and 3 for the other," if you had machine personalities you could have any number of call staff, so you can be dealt with without ever waiting in a queue at a call centre again.'

Pearson, from Whitehaven in Cumbria, collaborates on technology with some developers and keeps a watching brief on advances around the world. He concedes the need to debate the implications of progress. 'You need a completely global debate. Whether we should be building machines as smart as people is a really big one. Whether we should be allowed to modify bacteria to assemble electronic circuitry and make themselves smart is already being researched.

'We can already use DNA, for example, to make electronic circuits so it's possible to think of a smart yoghurt some time after 2020 or 2025, where the yoghurt has got a whole stack of electronics in every single bacterium. You could have a conversation with your strawberry yogurt before you eat it.'

In the shorter term, Pearson identifies the next phase of progress as 'ambient intelligence': chips with everything. He explained: 'For example, if you have a pollen count sensor in your car you take some antihistamine before you get out. Chips will come small enough that you can start impregnating them into the skin. We're talking about video tattoos as very, very thin sheets of polymer that you just literally stick on to the skin and they stay there for several days. You could even build in cellphones and connect it to the network, use it as a video phone and download videos or receive emails.'

Philips, the electronics giant, is developing the world's first rollable display which is just a millimetre thick and has a 12.5cm screen which can be wrapped around the arm. It expects to start production within two years.

The next age, he predicts, will be that of 'simplicity' in around 2013-2015. 'This is where the IT has actually become mature enough that people will be able to drive it without having to go on a training course.

'Forget this notion that you have to have one single chip in the computer which does everything. Why not just get a stack of little self-organising chips in a box and they'll hook up and do it themselves. It won't be able to get any viruses because most of the operating system will be stored in hardware which the hackers can't write to. If your machine starts going wrong, you just push a button and it's reset to the factory setting.'

Pearson's third age is 'virtual worlds' in around 2020. 'We will spend a lot of time in virtual space, using high quality, 3D, immersive, computer generated environments to socialise and do business in. When technology gives you a life-size 3D image and the links to your nervous system allow you to shake hands, it's like being in the other person's office. It's impossible to believe that won't be the normal way of communicating.


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1 posted on 05/22/2005 1:38:43 PM PDT by billorites
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To: billorites

Stay oud de Matrix!


2 posted on 05/22/2005 1:41:20 PM PDT by Enterprise (Coming soon from Newsweek: "Fallujah - we had to destroy it in order to save it.")
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To: billorites
In the year 5555
Your arms hanging limp at your sides.
Your legs got nothing to do.
Some machine doing that for you.

3 posted on 05/22/2005 1:41:36 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites
Sound like a book I read years ago: "The First Immortal."

http://www.randomhouse.com/features/firstimmortal/

4 posted on 05/22/2005 1:42:17 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
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To: billorites

Sounds like this chap needs to brush up on his Turing theory.


5 posted on 05/22/2005 1:46:42 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: billorites

As you can see the folks who don't yet have any idea how to do this stuff get a little silly about it. A computer working super fast to analyze data inputs and take action to stop a plane crash doesn't need to be "afraid" in order to do its job better. When I read a quote like that I know the person doing the talking is not doing the walking.


6 posted on 05/22/2005 1:48:23 PM PDT by Williams
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To: billorites
'You can also start automating an awful lots of jobs

When everybody is immortal they will figure out what needs doing, what has value, and values will be different. Won't be any jobs unless somebody wants to work like that in the interest of self-realization.

7 posted on 05/22/2005 1:49:19 PM PDT by RightWhale (These problems would not exist if we had had a moon base all along)
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To: Enterprise

Speaking of Star Trek - I remember an episode where all desease had been erradicated and nobody died. Millions and millions of inhabitants milling around with nothing to do, almost stepping on each others feet. They tried to highjack donors from the Enterprise in order to re-introduce sickness and death into the population. It was spooky.


8 posted on 05/22/2005 1:49:25 PM PDT by patriot_wes (papal infallibility - a proud tradition since 1869)
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To: billorites

By the way, some of us call this living forever thing "Heaven."


9 posted on 05/22/2005 1:49:32 PM PDT by Williams
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To: billorites

The IQ of a microprocessor is 0. It is just a bunch of switches(transistors used as switches).


10 posted on 05/22/2005 1:52:45 PM PDT by microgood
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To: Williams

Many will call it 'Eternal Boredom.'


11 posted on 05/22/2005 1:52:51 PM PDT by RightWhale (These problems would not exist if we had had a moon base all along)
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To: Williams

It might also be called Hell...though we do not call it 'life' in the same sense.


12 posted on 05/22/2005 1:53:42 PM PDT by Cleburne
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To: RightWhale

It ain't immortality. Whatever sits in the computer, it sure ain't YOU. It may think like you and have your memories, but YOU die and IT sits there.


13 posted on 05/22/2005 1:54:48 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Not Elected Pope Since 4/19/2005.)
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To: Lazamataz

About the most lasting thing a man can do is put in a driveway. Granted, a driveway will not last forever, but it will probably outlast his house and most certainly outlast his stay on the NYT Bestsellers List.


14 posted on 05/22/2005 1:59:47 PM PDT by RightWhale (These problems would not exist if we had had a moon base all along)
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To: billorites

The Skynet funding bill is passed. The system goes on-line August 4th, 1997. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. Skynet begins to learn, at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. eastern time, August 29. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.


15 posted on 05/22/2005 2:08:38 PM PDT by Thoro (Then an accidental overdose of gamma radiation alters his body chemistry....)
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To: billorites
The serpent said to the woman,
"You surely will not die!
For God knows that in the day you eat from it
your eyes will be opened,
and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

It was a lie the first time the serpent said it and it is still a lie!

16 posted on 05/22/2005 2:15:30 PM PDT by Useless_eater_on_steroids ("We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." -- Aesop)
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To: billorites
. . . and human consciousness will be stored on supercomputers, promising immortality for all

Do you know anyone who would actually give up their physical life to opt into something like this? I believe that most of us have the innate awareness of an eternal soul and would have to pass. Ergo - it would not really equate to immortality.

17 posted on 05/22/2005 2:23:01 PM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: billorites

Downloading you mind into a computer means when you die it won't be much of a career problem? So, in the future we work forever and never have sex. And you pay for this?


18 posted on 05/22/2005 2:30:23 PM PDT by uscabjd
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To: uscabjd

Will they actually be able to transfer your being into the machine, or will it be a "copy".
How is that immortaitly?


19 posted on 05/22/2005 2:33:10 PM PDT by John Will
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To: billorites

Bah.

When tech ceases to be a tool and becomes a necessity, I opt out.

You'll never see a cellular phone in my hand, for example. Sometimes I don't want to be reached.

APf


20 posted on 05/22/2005 2:34:35 PM PDT by APFel (This space for sale or rent)
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