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Filibusters of judicial nominees led to direct attack on senior senator(Louisiana Vitter/Landrieu)
2theadvocate.com ^ | 05/20/05 | GERARD SHIELDS

Posted on 05/20/2005 8:19:26 AM PDT by Ellesu

Vitter WASHINGTON -- The national debate about President Bush's judicial nominations spilled into Louisiana on Thursday when one of the state's U.S. senators boldly challenged another on the Senate floor. In an unusual move, freshman U.S. Sen. David Vitter, R-La., used his floor speech to call on senior colleague Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La., to support Bush nominations and end filibusters blocking seven judges.

One of the nominees is Texas Supreme Court Justice Priscilla Owen, to the U.S. 5th Circuit Court of Appeals, which handles federal court appeals from Louisiana.

Democrats have blocked Owen's nomination four times since 2001. "We have judicial nominations not nominated months ago or weeks ago, but years ago," Vitter said. "That's not fair."

Vitter criticized Landrieu for supporting the filibuster of judicial nominee Miguel Estrada after expressing support of him during her re-election campaign. Vitter urged Landrieu to buck Democratic party leaders, calling the filibusters "obstructionism."

The predecessors of Vitter and Landrieu both watched the proceedings and said Vitter's remarks were in bad form.

Although Landrieu responded to Vitter's action later in the day by letter, his floor speech had little effect on Landrieu, who continued to oppose a Republican threat known as "the nuclear option" that would change the Senate rules and allow the approval of judicial nominations by a simple majority vote.

Bush has received the approval of 95 percent of his judicial nominations, Landrieu said in a statement.

"Democracies work best by consensus," Landrieu said. "Eliminating the voice of the minority on this issue or any other issue undermines this principle."

The Senate contains 55 Republicans, 44 Democrats and one Independent. Democrats can block Senate action with a filibuster, which takes 60 votes to break.

Allowing nominations with a simple majority would practically guarantee approval of all Republican nominations.

Democrats have threatened to tie up the Senate if Republicans vote for the nuclear option. Among legislation that would be affected are the federal highway and energy bills.

In her letter to Vitter, Landrieu said that Owen's appointment and those of a handful of others are being held up over process, not credentials. She urged him to consider the Senate's "proper role" in appointment and confirmation.

"We should be wary of any step that would relegate the Senate's historical role to a rubber stamp for an administration's wishes," she wrote.

Judge confirmations are life appointments, she said.

Although referring to a senator by name on the floor in a speech is not against the Senate rules, it traditionally isn't done, according to former Louisiana senators.

Former U.S. Sen. John Breaux, D-La., was watching the proceedings and said he was shocked by the move.

"I have never seen anything like that in my 32 years of Congress," Breaux said. "I think it was unprecedented and in bad taste."

Former U.S. Sen. J. Bennett Johnston, D-La., served in the Senate for 25 years ending in 1997. He also watched the speech.

"That is just not done," Johnston said.

Landrieu was not on the Senate floor when Vitter made his comments. She was participating in a Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee hearing on the energy bill. When told about the speech, Landrieu laughed the matter off.

"Of course, Sen. Vitter is new to the Senate, and he's learning the rules," Landrieu said.

In her letter to him she pointed out that when she was a junior senator, she relied on the examples set by senior and established colleagues.

The incident was the latest in what appears to be an eroding bond between Vitter and Landrieu.

They got off to a rocky start when Landrieu accused Vitter of hanging up on her election night, which Vitter denied. In January, they held a news conference announcing that they would work together for Louisiana.

Landrieu, however, recently withdrew her co-sponsorship of Vitter's primary piece of legislation to allow reimportation of drugs. Vitter wrongly took her words of support as sponsorship of the bill, Landrieu said. Vitter was unmistaken about her sponsorship, he said.

Wednesday, both senators said they intend to keep working together.

"I'm reaching out to Mary because she's in a unique position," Vitter said. "I hope her response is reaching across the aisle."

Landrieu is part of a bipartisan group of senators who have been trying to reach a compromise on the judicial issue. The group has been meeting throughout the week, including Thursday afternoon.

"In my mind, I'm going to continue to work with Senator Vitter on issues in our state," Landrieu said.


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: 109th; filibuster; filibusters; landrieu; louisiana; ussenate; vitter
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To: yellowdoghunter

Sounds like we have some new blood in there. I think Vitter is the "new guy" I was so impressed with after hearing him speak several months ago. (Forget what the issue was)..but I liked what I heard.


21 posted on 05/20/2005 6:06:44 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: ken5050

Jindal could be Speaker of the House, Senator, or Governor if he wishes. I'm not certain what his ambitions are.

IMO, if Governor is the highest he wishes to step he should stay in the House a few years. If he wishes higher office than Governor, he should run for the Governor office in the next election. If Governor is not essential to him he has two choices. Stay on course for higher leadership in the House Body, or switch to the senate. I can see the value in any of these courses.

What is appealing about being Governor is that it would be yet another House member who knows how not to lose making the RINO's lives miserable.


22 posted on 05/20/2005 6:30:47 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Soul Seeker

Correction-last line substitute senator in place of Governor.


23 posted on 05/20/2005 6:32:27 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: yellowdoghunter

well said. It is looking like there are quite a few of the "freshmen" that have some sense. Perhaps this could be the start of a very good thing. I think much of the RINO problem in the Senate is a result of this sort of thing (it just isn't done that way, blah, blah, blah)...we need to make sure that these new guys know we are watching and that we LIKE it when we can see a spine...maybe eventually, the RINO will become extinct.


24 posted on 05/20/2005 7:19:30 PM PDT by Kylie_04
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To: No Dems 2004
Translation of Senator Breaux and Senator Johnston remarks:

"How DARE a Republican expose us Louisiana Democrats for the LIBERALS we are!!! Before Vitter, we had a monopoly on Louisiana's senate delegation for 140 years by conning voters into think we were conservative Democrats. Now we're being exposed for what we are in Louisiana. IT'S NOT FAIR!!!"

25 posted on 05/20/2005 10:52:04 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Find out the TRUTH about the Chicago Democrat Machine's "Best Friend" in the GOP - www.NOLaHood.com)
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To: 1Old Pro

She banked on her daddy's DemocRat machine here in Louisiana, Moon Landrieu. It is my driving purpose in life to campaign against here in the next election.


26 posted on 05/20/2005 10:56:02 PM PDT by USAFJeeper
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To: Ellesu

I missed the attack. Did he call her a loser? I do not get it. The left senators are calling the right ever name in the book. I must not be able to read.


27 posted on 05/20/2005 11:17:22 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: Brimack34

He spoke her name on the floor instead of "the esteemed senior senator from Louisiana". LOL.


28 posted on 05/21/2005 6:10:16 AM PDT by Ellesu
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To: Ellesu
"Democracies work best by consensus," Landrieu said. "Eliminating the voice of the minority on this issue or any other issue undermines this principle."

Consensus is not minority rule. Landrieu is a dimwit opportunist.

A Senator can't hide behind unanimous consent or cloture to kill a treaty. (Riddick's - Appendix - Forms - and Index - see pp1521- and pp1554-)

This implies that a simple majority is required to postpone indefinitely consideration of a nomination, and that less than a simple majority is not sufficient to postpone indefinitely a decision on the nomination.

How does handling of a nomination tie in with handling of a treaty? They are similar in that both are powers granted to the President. The president has the power to negotiate treaties and present them to the Senate for their advice and consent. The President also has the power to appoint, or seat, judicial and executive officers of *his* choosing, with the advice and consent of the Senate.

It is logically false to equate a failure to obtain unanimous consent or cloture with a vote to reject. Under the first, which the DEMs have implemented, the President is denied the appointment of officers of his choosing, and the denail is implements by less than a simple majority of Senators. Under the Constitutional "to reject the nominee, you must vote on the nominee," a simple majority of Senators would consent to the officers the President has nominated. This is a material difference.

The Senate has erected a supermajority hurdle of ITS OWN CHOOSING. A Senate Rule that did not exist until 1917, and has been amended on numerous occasions since then. If the Senate is free to erect its own hurdle, what's to prevent setting it at 2/3rds, or 3/4th, or 9/10ths? Or to prevent a SINGLE Senator from withholding the vote - exactly the way the Senate worked before cloture? The Constitution, say the DEM Senators, gives the Senate the power to make its own rules. They are right, and they are wrong.

While the Senate is free to make rules that affect only it, it cannot make rules that diminish the power of another branch. The Senate has a DUTY to advice and consent, confirm or reject, each nominee; just as surely as it has a DUTY to render judgement in an impeachment trial. It cannot conduct the trial, and then refuse to vote. It cannot consider a nominee, and then refuse to vote.

In contrast, the power of each House to make its own rules, recited in Article I, Section 5 of the Constitution, clearly applies to matters PURELY internal to its workings. "shall be the Judge of Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own members ... may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behaviour, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a member."

29 posted on 05/21/2005 6:18:11 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: geoffreyt
"Mary is so clean."

On the outside maybe. Since she is a supporter of abortion, I consider her kind of ugly inside (heart/soul/mind)...

30 posted on 05/21/2005 6:38:02 AM PDT by FireTrack
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To: Ellesu

Allowing nominations with a simple majority would practically guarantee approval of all Republican nominations.



Really?.... You don't say. Now who would have thought it?.... That Senator is really smart....

It would also guarantee apporval of all Democrat nominations, but then the Republicans have never used a partisan filibuster to deny a democrat an up/down vote once on the Senate floor. Moonbat knows that or should.


31 posted on 05/21/2005 6:56:10 AM PDT by deport (Accept that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue....)
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To: geoffreyt

I would not kick her out of bed, however I sure as hell would not vote for her. :)


32 posted on 05/21/2005 1:05:25 PM PDT by cpdiii (Oil Field Trash, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, (OIL FIELD TRASH was fun))
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To: Ellesu; All
"I have never seen anything like that in my 32 years of Congress," Breaux said. "I think it was unprecedented and in bad taste."

Former U.S. Sen. J. Bennett Johnston, D-La., served in the Senate for 25 years ending in 1997. He also watched the speech. "That is just not done," Johnston said.

My response to Johnston and Breaux would be: "When you guys start paying as much attention to upholding the actual Constitution, to which you swore a solemn oath, as you do your precious Senate Rules, then I will once more consider referring to you as "the honorable Senator from LA".

33 posted on 05/21/2005 1:21:30 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat (This tagline space for rent - cheap!)
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To: Ellesu
We need to pressure Red State Democrats. Landreau barely won the election last time.
34 posted on 05/21/2005 1:30:08 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Question Liberalism)
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