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To: bummerdude

1. The holocaust only ended because of WW2, if we hadn't gotten involved, all the Jews in Europe would have been dead. So we, along with the Russians, the Brits, and others, did save the Jews

2. Poland is still here today. If we didn't get involved and Hitler won, there'd be no Poland, all the Poles would have been dead and it would be part of Germany. Much in the way that there's no Carthage today-it would be Poland delenda est.

3. Same goes for E. Europe. Hitler played for keeps. And with the bomb, which he 100% would have had without US involvement, he would have kept.

4. Given the utter destruction and death the Allies dealt to the Germans, I wouldn't exactly say they "got away".

Anyone can say WW2 wasn't worth it, but anyone can also question that statement. I could say the Civil War wasn't worth it, that doesn't make it so. So, to clarify, you think Nam was worth it but WW2 wasn't? After all, we didn't save South Vietnam, lost all of Indochina, and to a much greater extent, the North Vietnamese and VC got away scot free with all their atrocities.


523 posted on 05/12/2005 5:29:27 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: jeltz25
1. So we, along with the Russians, the Brits, and others, did save the Jews
There were an handful left. We failed the Jews.

2. Poland is still here today.
No thanks to FDR or Churchill. Only thanks to God, for sending leaders like Ronald Reagan, JPII, and Lech Walesa. Poland would have been the same off whether it be German or Soviet rule. Poland has been though germanification before, and it survived.

3. Same goes for E. Europe.
Germanification or Russification? Choose your poison.

4. I wouldn't exactly say they "got away
Most war criminals got away, as there were hundreds of thousands of Germans who commited crimes against humanity. Hilter and Himmler weren't pulling every trigger you know. And today, while Poland is among the poorest in Europe, Germany is the strongest, most prosperous country in Europe, and third in the world. Yeah, those bastards got what they deserved alright!

After all, we didn't save South Vietnam, lost all of Indochina, and to a much greater extent, the North Vietnamese and VC got away scot free with all their atrocities.
My point exactly! You tell me the difference.

525 posted on 05/12/2005 5:51:56 PM PDT by bummerdude
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To: jeltz25

The Holocaust, e.g. mass genocide of Jews, only began in 1942, that is after we came in. Hitler's original plan was to kick the Jews out but FDR, the man who made this war possible, sent them back to die. Google S.S. St. Louis if you want to read more.


558 posted on 05/14/2005 1:29:07 PM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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