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'Kingdom of Heaven' – Truth in Limbo - (tour de force review!)
NEWSMAX.COM ^ | MAY 9, 2005 | JAMES HIRSEN

Posted on 05/09/2005 4:47:54 PM PDT by CHARLITE

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Gotta love this line! "If a real medieval commander had given such a speech, he'd have been chopped into tiny little pieces."
1 posted on 05/09/2005 4:48:00 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

good find!!


2 posted on 05/09/2005 4:49:22 PM PDT by dennisw (2¢ plain)
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Now now...from just this review I can guess this is a film about tolerance and the validity of all ideas, not just those extreme western principals.


3 posted on 05/09/2005 4:52:50 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: CHARLITE

Orlando Bloom practices some kind of trendy Buddhism, which kind of tells you all you need to know.


4 posted on 05/09/2005 4:57:37 PM PDT by ikka
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To: CHARLITE
I Slam Islam !!!
5 posted on 05/09/2005 5:00:33 PM PDT by GeekDejure ("That may be too late!" -- Laura)
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To: CHARLITE
I wonder when they're going to do a cinematic adaptation of one of Bat Ye'or's books. Maybe The Decline of Eastern Christianity under Islam: From Jihad to Dhimmitude would be good.
6 posted on 05/09/2005 5:04:06 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Government IS the problem.)
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"In a Middle Age minute, the guy transforms himself into the most formidable knight in town."

Well hells bells, if Tom Cruise can become an extraordinary Samurai, then Orlando Bloom can become an extraordinary Knight. God wills it!

7 posted on 05/09/2005 5:04:56 PM PDT by Enterprise (Abortion and "euthanasia" - the twin destroyers of the Democrat Party.)
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To: ikka

"Nichiren Shoshu" Buddhism


8 posted on 05/09/2005 5:05:51 PM PDT by dennisw (2¢ plain)
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To: CHARLITE
Just last night we were talking about this. A friend who is a History major said he can't watch these movies, because he ends up yelling at the screen. I told him I'm not a History major, but I know exactly what he means. The most recent one, 'Troy' was mentioned.

We agreed the actual history of any era one wants to discuss is so much more interesting than any Hollywoodized crap, why do they continue to do those things.

9 posted on 05/09/2005 5:06:45 PM PDT by real saxophonist (Jane Fonda might as well make her gravestone a urinal. Semper Fi)
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Hi Char.

Can anyone who saw this movie tell me if this is an accuate portrayal? Would be much appreciated, since I don't "go to the movies"...I buy them for home entertainment.

TIA!

FMCDH(BITS)

10 posted on 05/09/2005 5:11:27 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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Anyone who thought this movie was going to be even remotely representative of history needs a massage.

In the meantime, I'm going to load up my DVD of "Lawrence of Arabia"...

11 posted on 05/09/2005 5:11:29 PM PDT by Fintan (Someday we'll look back on this moment and plow into a parked car.)
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To: CHARLITE

I was looking forward to this film.
Im glad I got a review before I wasted my money on it.
hollywood claptrap indeed :(


12 posted on 05/09/2005 5:13:38 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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My 23-year-old son went to see it. He said it was historically confused and the story went nowhere after the first half. He's getting depressed about the abysmal talent putting out these "screedplays."

I told him he should try his hand at it.

He said "I don't have a history degree."

"All the better," I said.

13 posted on 05/09/2005 5:13:51 PM PDT by cookcounty ("We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the Courts" ---Abe Lincoln, 1858.)
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LOA is a classic maybe I rewatch my DVD as well L0L


14 posted on 05/09/2005 5:16:02 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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Have to agree, this Scott film didn't even get close to being another "Gladiator". Everything that was real to being human, which a viewer could relate to in Gladiator, (the evil emperor,the burning desire for just revenge, the passions of the man with his losses and his triumphs, his role as adopted son,friend and leader, etc.)was lost in "Kingdom".

Pondering on it, I first thought the cause was a bad screenplay. At times it was so formula. And the words coming out of the actors' mouths, how lofty and sometimes highbrow..."A king does not kill another king." It was as if everyone wanted to believed what they were espousing, but there was no tension, no sense of fear, no rousing inner spirit to gives way to moving speeches, those whichh touch the human emotions of the other characters, there wasn't even any fanatical passion (on either warring side, Christian or Muslim) before, during or after their bloody battles.

Wish it had been a better film, I went to see it wanting to be inspired as I was at Scott and Crowe's collaboration of Gladiator.


15 posted on 05/09/2005 5:16:44 PM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer
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To: dennisw
"Nichiren Shoshu"

Is this a new take-out dish? Does it come with fortune cookies?

16 posted on 05/09/2005 5:17:42 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I have a fabulous harlequin Great Dane named "Lucy!" :))
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Hi there, nothingnew! Greetings to your lovely wife!

Char :)

17 posted on 05/09/2005 5:18:43 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I have a fabulous harlequin Great Dane named "Lucy!" :))
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To: mylife

Well I saw the movie this past saturday and I did like it. But then I do not go to movies to have them verify my world view.

The heros in the movie were courageous, the villians vile. The last stand by Baelin and his handful of knights at Jeruselem was inspiring.

As a historic document, the movie left a lot to be desired. As a sword and sandal flick, it was quite good. I was entertained, and that is what I spent my money for.


18 posted on 05/09/2005 5:21:14 PM PDT by speed_addiction (If you expect the worse out of everybody, you won't be disappointed___Frank Castle)
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I sure hope it was better than Troy


19 posted on 05/09/2005 5:25:48 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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Soka Gakkai, which literally means “Establishing Value Education Society”, was founded in Japan in 1930 as a fraternal auxiliary to Nichiren Shoshu, the largest sect of Nichiren Buddhism. One of the results of this outreach is that Soka Gakkai has been much more effective than any other group at attracting non-Asian minority converts, chiefly black and Latino, to Buddhism. It has also been successful in attracting the support of celebrities, such as Tina Turner, Herbie Hancock, and Orlando Bloom.


20 posted on 05/09/2005 5:26:32 PM PDT by dennisw (2¢ plain)
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