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Day that forever changed the city
The Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | Sun, May. 08, 2005 | By Larry Eichel

Posted on 05/08/2005 12:30:21 PM PDT by baseballmom

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To: blackdog

LOL I worked at Graterford from 10/77 to 01/81.


21 posted on 05/08/2005 1:33:48 PM PDT by moonman
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To: blackdog

Did Ramona ever get the final operation? LOL


22 posted on 05/08/2005 1:34:47 PM PDT by moonman
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To: blackdog
well that explains the background, but i still have no idea what "JIGGY" is supposed to mean... sounds like a word a white person would do well to stay away from... but what do i know 8^)
23 posted on 05/08/2005 1:36:50 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: moonman
Yes, you worked with my father. Not a job for the emotionally or physically frail. What a place eh?

Florida still nice for you?

We'll never go back to Pennsylvania, although we miss much of the traditions of the area.

24 posted on 05/08/2005 2:13:41 PM PDT by blackdog (British cars, airplanes, furniture, and women.......Only the classics will do!)
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To: Chode
The urban thesarus would also have "down" next to jiggy. Enamoured perhaps. Let it slide in favor. Pleased with or accepting, but not expressing it specifically.

That's my use of jiggy since you aksed.

25 posted on 05/08/2005 2:17:52 PM PDT by blackdog (British cars, airplanes, furniture, and women.......Only the classics will do!)
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To: blackdog

And don't forget the absolute SHODDY workmanship on those new houses whose contracts were given to their City Hall buddies. I read that repairs still go on - 20 years later.


26 posted on 05/08/2005 2:19:01 PM PDT by baseballmom
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To: Search4Truth

I agree with all you said.

I remember the day well and said the same thing----those poor children deserved better parents and I slept well also.


27 posted on 05/08/2005 2:19:16 PM PDT by Mears (Keep the government out of my face!)
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To: Chode

Next week, we'll discuss "Bucket" as used in urban areas. That's a spicy one.


28 posted on 05/08/2005 2:19:39 PM PDT by blackdog (British cars, airplanes, furniture, and women.......Only the classics will do!)
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To: Mears
It's a Dickins world out there, and government is supposed to be good. It's individual people who will do you harm. When the government and it's institutions come s a callin, it's not supposed to blow up buildings, burn down neighborhoods, or kill people.

Up is down and good is bad.

The facts surrounding Branch Davidians and MOVE are more common than different. Same result. Do you sleep well as on both? If so, you're situational in your ethics.

29 posted on 05/08/2005 2:25:29 PM PDT by blackdog (British cars, airplanes, furniture, and women.......Only the classics will do!)
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To: Mears

If you researched the MOVE kids and mothers, you'd realize that the children were very well cared for. Granted very differently, but in very good health and some were not before they joined in with MOVE. No drugs, no alchohol, no processed foods. They lived like bushmen in Africa do. They crapped in the yard, used no utilities to speak, ate mostly raw foods, practiced polygamy, and cherished their kids. Perhaps irresponsibly when weighed against state interests and power, but they were all very healthy children and like I said earlier, two with diabetes became blood sugar stable while living within the MOVE house.


30 posted on 05/08/2005 2:31:31 PM PDT by blackdog (British cars, airplanes, furniture, and women.......Only the classics will do!)
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To: blackdog

Your dad, 'Sarge' was a great guy.

We will never return to PA to live either. I love it here in Florida.

Glad to see you are still a FReeper. :)


31 posted on 05/08/2005 3:21:29 PM PDT by moonman
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To: blackdog
thanxklot... just showing my ignorance i guess as i've never come across it here before
32 posted on 05/08/2005 4:53:28 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: baseballmom; blackdog

>A horrible day in the history of Philadelphia.

That's what I think, but I'm open to discussion.
Really there must have been a better way to deal
with MOVE. Glad someone posted this article, hate
to have this episode totally forgotten


33 posted on 05/08/2005 6:10:08 PM PDT by cycjec
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To: blackdog
does it start something: like There was an old man from Nantucket, who... 8^) i live in the boondocks so this is new stuff to me
34 posted on 05/08/2005 7:10:57 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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The problem was that normally, you pay such people to go away or entice them to leave with material gains. Unfortunately, those motivational tactics were useless to Delbert Africa and the more anti-social they became only validated their movement in their own minds, yet further alienated them from any help from possible sources of sympathy within the liberal collective mind inside city government.

They were being studied plenty and there was no reason they had to die. Sadly enough, once your domicile is refered to in the media as a "compound" and it is observed that you are taking steps to prevent an assault on your family by police, it's called "fortifying your bunker", the pavlovian word-keys have been issued to unlock the dogs of war.

35 posted on 05/08/2005 7:20:10 PM PDT by blackdog (British cars, airplanes, furniture, and women.......Only the classics will do!)
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To: Chode
I find urban slang fascinating and culturaly important. I live more boonies than you I bet(I'm a sheep rancher). To me it displays a creativity which is a form of poetry. Complex phrase meanings turned into one word slang are interesting and art-worthy. Certain courtesy's, insults, physical descriptions, etc....become very rich with urban slang. The english language can be very microspecific in meaning. Adjust it a little here and there and it becomes quite a canvas.

Just hope your wife or girlfriend has never been refered to as a bucket.......Or if your date asks you if you like snowballing, take a pass on that one.....

36 posted on 05/08/2005 7:29:01 PM PDT by blackdog (British cars, airplanes, furniture, and women.......Only the classics will do!)
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To: blackdog
well i guess i don't have to worry about that one as anybody living within at least a twenty mile radius of us would tell you a bucket is for water, then again there are no urbanites hereabouts either and we don't know anybody who would have those terms known to them either... what kills me is that anything can mean anything anymore and what one urbanite thinks is cool might get another one across the street or across the country killed...
37 posted on 05/08/2005 8:14:54 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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