[Mulder]

The statist gun grabbers are at it again.

[Rakkasan1]

the whole no-guns deal at Red Lake worked pretty well.

[yarddog]

Interesting that they would foolishly mention the Appalacian Law School incident.

It was ended by students who retrieved guns from their vehicles.

[Physicist]

Hokie ping.

[FreedomPoster]

>>n a crisis, untrained shooters may be as likely to take innocent lives as save them.

Because the Roanoke Times says so?

I love to see what passes for argumentation among so-called educated people these days.

[GovernmentShrinker]

Surely firearms should be kept far away from events such as the wild annual Quadfest party at Radford University, which resulted in more than 400 arrests over the weekend, most of them alcohol-related. Or from stadiums and tail-gate parties, where alcohol often fuels ugly fan behavior.

Full speed ahead with the guns on campus. Then maybe college officials will have to get serious about cracking down on underage drinking, and public drunkenness regardless of age. Protecting "students'" (and I use the term loosely) nonexistent right to be drunk and disorderly, is a poor excuse for depriving them of their real and important right to bear arms. If colleges only admitted real students, events like the one described would never happen on a college campus.

[flashbunny]

Or an 'S' for Stupid.

[DuncanWaring]

In a crisis, untrained shooters may be as likely to take innocent lives as save them.

Let's consider the record on this one.

In the Appalachian Law school incident, already discussed, "untrained" shooters saved lives rather than taking them.

Somewhere else a few years ago, "Pearl, Mississippi" if I recall correctly, an assistant principal got his weapon out of the glove compartment of his car, putting a stop to a shooting situation, without taking any lives at all, innocent or otherwise.

And then there's Columbine. "Trained shooters" all around, all of them wetting their pants. Lives saved - zero.

Do these folks have any examples of untrained shooters actually taking innocent lives?

[ccmay]

In a crisis, untrained shooters may be as likely to take innocent lives as save them.

When will these pontificating media blowhards ever bother to look at the evidence, instead of bleating and bloviating based on nothing more than their own Hollywood-fueled biases and fantasies?

It is well known to criminologists that a citizen who resists a direct criminal attack with a gun is much less likely to shoot an innocent bystander than a cop, who comes on the scene later, with no knowledge of who the good and bad guys really are.

Statistics quoted by Don Kates in his book "Restricting Handguns: The Liberal Skeptics Speak Out" indicate that 11% of police shootings involve innocent bystanders mistaken for criminals. For private citizens, the figure is 2%.

-ccm