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Enough: End Unconstitutional Judicial Filibusters
CHRONWATCH.COM ^ | APRIL 16, 2005 | JOE MARIANI

Posted on 04/16/2005 8:21:27 PM PDT by CHARLITE

When some members of Congress violate the Constitution, how can we have any confidence in their leadership? Yet that is precisely the effect these unlawful filibusters of judicial nominees are having -- undermining confidence in the Senate. Instead of voting yes or no on President Bush's picks for certain federal judgeships, Democrats are refusing to allow a vote to even take place, using a Senate rule that no motion may come to a vote while still under discussion.

The filibuster, as it's called, has been used by both sides for over a century and a half to delay votes while opinions are changed by argument and deal-making. Its original intent was somewhat more noble: to make sure all sides had their say during a debate. It was also supposed to mean that the subject at hand was actually being discussed, in an effort to convince some of the majority to change their minds. In reality, filibusters have included Senators reading phone books and even the Bible while simply holding the floor in the effort to prevent a vote from taking place. Senator Huey Long (D-LA) famously regaled the Senate with Shakespeare readings and favorite recipes in the 1930's (your grandpa's tax dollars at work).

This rule created reverse pressure on those doing the talking, since no further Senate business could be transacted while a filibuster was in effect. The only way to end it is to get three-fifths (originally two-thirds) of the Senators to vote, called a cloture vote. In theory, as Senate business piled up, Senators would eventually feel the pressure to vote to allow the process of voting to continue. All a Senator has to do now is announce that a vote will be filibustered, and the Senate moves on to other business. It effectively gives any Senator the power to force any measure to take 60 votes to pass instead of 51, just by saying so.

That's all well and good for bills and motions, since the Constitution deliberately left the Senate free to write its own rules of operation. In general, the less the Senate does, the better off we all are, anyway. The Constitution specifically calls upon the Senate to perform certain functions, however. Using the Senate "house rules" to play political games with those duties subverts the purpose behind calling for Senate participation in the first place. The Senate's role in Presidential nominees to federal courts is one of those functions.

He shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States, whose appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by law: but the Congress may by law vest the appointment of such inferior officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the courts of law, or in the heads of departments.

- Constitution of the United States, Article II, Section 2

The "advice and consent of the Senate" is being withheld by the actions of the Democrat minority. The Senate is not being allowed to vote either for or against some of the President's judicial nominees, by a fake filibuster during which no one is speaking, and while other business comes and goes on the Senate floor. While the Republicans are trying to end this abuse of the filibuster, the Democrats are clinging to their obstructionist ways with all their waning might. Opponents of the proposed rule change, which would prevent judicial nominations being filibustered as though they were common bills or motions, call it the "nuclear option." Its supporters refer to it as the "constitutional option." The nicknames alone pretty much summarise the arguments from each side.

Democrats and Liberals are trying to confuse regular filibusters with unconstitutional ones in the minds of the public, suggesting that all filibusters are in danger of being halted. One television commercial "defending the filibuster" shows a clip from Frank Capra's 1939 movie, "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington." The clip is supposed to remind us how the brave, idealistic and honest Smith used a filibuster to convince the heartless politicians to do the right thing, until he collapsed from exhaustion. Can we afford to let the time-honored tradition of the filibuster be destroyed, the ad asks? In fact, this sort of truth-twisting provides more evidence for the theory that Liberals believe that movies are more realistic than real life -- or that the public can't tell the difference. They don't seem to realise that we're not fooled by their Hollywood depictions of reality anymore... not when we can turn to CSPAN to see the real Senate in "action." The commercial, by the way, neglects to mention that the fictional Mr. Smith was filibustering a bill, not a judicial nominee.

It doesn't matter who sits in the White House, or who holds a majority in the Senate -- violations of the Constitution by those sworn to uphold it cannot be allowed to stand unchallenged. If Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-TN) thinks he has the necessary votes to stop unconstitutional filibusters, he ought to do so without further hesitation. If not, perhaps those who don't want the Constitution violated ought to contact their Senators and tell them to stop these unlawful filibusters.

About the Writer: Joe Mariani is a computer consultant and freelance writer who lives in Pennsylvania. His website is available at: http://guardian.blogdrive.com.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
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Joe has links to many important documents, if you go to the original on chronwatch. They are too numerous throughout Joe's column, to insert, but are clearly "clickable" from the web page.

http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=14066

1 posted on 04/16/2005 8:21:28 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

Let the bastards Filibuster in the traditional way of a Filibuster. However for Filibustering Judges use the Nuke Option.


2 posted on 04/16/2005 8:27:04 PM PDT by Bigfitz (The mind is like a parachute works best when open)
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To: CHARLITE

If they are Democrats, we cannot have confidence in their leadership. They are either sociopaths or their enablers.


3 posted on 04/16/2005 8:28:01 PM PDT by Savage Beast (The Democrat Party: The Party of Sociopaths and Their (Mentally and Morally Retarded) Enablers!)
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To: CHARLITE
Thank you for posting this, my friend. I agree, of course, per my speech last week in Washington (which is up on FR). And I took up the same subject in my column this week. See below.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "A Triple Black Dog Double Dare to Infinity."

4 posted on 04/16/2005 8:29:25 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Proud to be a FORMER member of the Bar of the US Supreme Court since July, 2004.)
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To: betty barnes
"In contrast, in the late 1990s, Republicans, with control of the U.S. Senate, were blocking as many as 50 Clinton judicial nominations. They refused to let the Senate Judiciary Committee hold hearings on these nominees. " Where did you get this crap. The reason was it was too late to vote on these nominees since it was the election year at too close to process. Get your facts straight.
6 posted on 04/16/2005 8:58:39 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: betty barnes

It's simple really. The Democrats are sharpening their knives for any Supreme Court nominees that might come up. This so-called "filibuster" scam that the Democrats are trying to pull is a setup for that day. Personally, I think that if the Democrats want to filibuster, the Republicans should MAKE them filibuster. I want to see the drunken Ted Kennedy on the floor of the Senate singing "A Hundred Bottles of Beer on the Wall" over and over 24/7. Then I want to see Sheets Byrd up there whistling the long version of Dixie until his sheets are wrinkled. Let's see some real filibustering. This talk nonsense is garbage.


7 posted on 04/16/2005 8:59:57 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Democrats are losers.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Thanks for the "double dare" link. I'll go read it immediately. I didn't see it, sad to say. You must have bumped me off of your Ping list!

Char (:

9 posted on 04/16/2005 9:04:48 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I lost my car keys.....and now I have to walk everywhere...)
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To: betty barnes; FlingWingFlyer; Congressman Billybob
"When did the rules change that a threat was all that was needed?"

Exactly my question. How can this be? It's like shorthand. You don't need to actually do something any longer - just tell everyone to imagine that the thing is in progress. Saves a lot of wind power, but it has become the "Theater of the Absurd."

10 posted on 04/16/2005 9:07:50 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I lost my car keys.....and now I have to walk everywhere...)
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To: betty barnes

Exactly. So far. It's been nothing but a bunch of threats. I've stocked up on popcorn and want to see them get it on. If they are going to filibuster then they need to filibuster. If not, each nominee should be given an up or down vote. That's all anyone wants. The Democrats claim to be "the party of fair." Well, they need to be "fair" to these nominees.


11 posted on 04/16/2005 9:14:23 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Democrats are losers.)
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To: CHARLITE

You got that right. I haven't seen a filibuster lately. Just a bunch of "wolf tickets" from the Democrats and I'm tired of it. The more Democrats are allowed to ramble, the more absurd they become. I want to see some REAL filibustering. They'll be shooting themselves in the foot. The Republicans need to call their bluff on this. Now!


12 posted on 04/16/2005 9:19:32 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Democrats are losers.)
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To: CHARLITE

The Senate must act as steward of the federal courts by returning the power to confirm judges to the Constitution's simple majority requirement. While it is the right of the President to expect the Senate to give Advice and Consent within a reasonable period of time, it is the duty of every Senator to offer Advice and Consent through an honest, up or down vote.

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=7054


13 posted on 04/16/2005 9:25:49 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne
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To: CHARLITE
Either make the Dems endure a real filibuster or "nuke 'em." However, be aware that a windbag like Byrd could rail on for hours and never take a breath.

Muleteam1

14 posted on 04/16/2005 9:26:52 PM PDT by Muleteam1
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To: FlingWingFlyer
"The Republicans need to call their bluff on this. Now!"

That's why a lot of us are SO frustrated! We worked so hard to re-elect George W. Bush, and we simply assumed that many of the issues about which we feel so strongly (taxes, Soc. Sec. reform and confirmation of conservative judges) would have been well along toward completion by now. I'm personally very disappointed in all of the dilly-dallying by Frist and the rest of our congressional leadership about confirming President Bush's judicial nominees. There is no excuse for this pandering and hesitation.

WE WON! Are we on FR the only ones who realize that?

15 posted on 04/16/2005 9:53:47 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I lost my car keys.....and now I have to walk everywhere...)
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To: CHARLITE
Article:
In reality, filibusters have included Senators reading phone books and even the Bible while simply holding the floor in the effort to prevent a vote from taking place.

      This ain't what's happening, folks.  There ... is ... no ... filibuster.
16 posted on 04/16/2005 10:43:10 PM PDT by Celtman (It's never right to do wrong to do right.)
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To: Celtman
"This ain't what's happening, folks. There ... is ... no ... filibuster."

I've already asked the question once. Where did this come from?.........just announcing that this or that nominee will be filibusted, without actually having to go through the process which would draw ridicule from most Americans observing the senseless, time consuming harrangues reading phone books et al. How did it get to a point where an empty, time-efficient "announcment" was sufficient? Sounds like a non-filibuster to me.

Obstructionist Democrats might as well declare, "To all of you who support Bush's nominees, we're going to smack you in your heads with hammers.....so THERE!"....and then back to business. No smacking. No hammers, but the confirmation is squashed by the mere announced threat of head smashing with hammers. Never happens and nominated judges twist in the wind.

17 posted on 04/16/2005 10:49:46 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I lost my car keys.....and now I have to walk everywhere...)
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To: CHARLITE
Let's at least be honest about the filibuster issue. Filibusters (which are nothing more than unlimited debate by any senator) have been allowed since the beginning of the Senate, not only since 1917 as has been reported erroneously by several sources. The 1917 rules change is what insituted cloture, the ability of the body to end debate when 2/3 of the members voted to do so.

Let's get past the rhetoric and discuss the real issue - should senators be allowed to debate on an umlimited basis? That is the only question which should be at hand. However, when the question get politicized and the party in majority in power (the Republicans currently) want to change the rules because they don't like the way the minority party is using them, they would be well reminded that the Republicans will not be in the majority forever. No party will be.

The senate was intended by the framers of the Constitution to be the "upper house", more deliberative and less political in nature. By that measure, it has failed for many years and continues to do so.

For those who take a purely partisan approach to this ("we're the Republicans and we don't like what Bill Clinton did to us and we're going to get our revenge now that W won again"), I simply ask that you grow up. Hey, I get it... no one likes to be in the minority. But we're better off when we're balanced - and I don't mean merely by a divided power structure between the Congress and the White House - I mean a balanced approach to the issues we face as a society and people today. We're in a global economy that continues to take jobs to overseas destinations and we've got enemies around the world who seek to prove that our form and style of government is evil and wrong. The more internal bickering that continues and petty (and I think the fact that some judges are filibustered is PETTY) infighting that occurs, the more energy is diverted from the real fight that we, as a nation, should be focusing on. Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans have sole custody on the issues of righteousness here. Neither do Christians, Jews, Muslims, Taoists or Pagans. Faith is different than religion and people of all political parties have faith, so get off the backs of those who don't have the same religion as you do. For the Christians in the readership, I will remind you that Jesus said, "Those without sin should cast the first stone". If you are sinless, please pick up the rock and wail away... otherwise, why not have a seat, take a breath and open your ears as much as your mouth (there's a reason we were blessed with 2 ears and one mouth - listen twice as much as we talk!)

If you are a parent, then I hope you raise your children with better discipline than we see in the political rhetoric of today. Children who don't get their way throw tantrums and the best parents I know don't give a "time out" or speak to their child as if they're negotiating good behavior like an arms treaty ("if you will behave now, I'll make sure you get a treat when we return home"). The best parents I know give a good sharp whack across the child's bottom to indicate that there are serious consequences to acting outside the societal boundaries of good behavior. If you have to have your way every single time, on every single issue, you're nothing but a spoiled child. Grow up... get along with your playmates and learn that life and liberty are best preserved when we work together as a nation rather than partisan politicians.
18 posted on 04/17/2005 10:22:11 AM PDT by vertium (Let's at least be honest about this...)
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To: CHARLITE
If the Judicial Filibuster were truly unconstitutional, then why hasn't it been challenged in the courts?

It seems that with a 5-4 majority on the Supreme Court, the GOP would win this one, like Bush v. Gore.

Judicial filibusters are an attempt by a desperate party to cling to power but since the Senate gets to make its own rules, I don't think they are unconstitutional
19 posted on 04/17/2005 2:13:48 PM PDT by llortami
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To: llortami

20 posted on 04/17/2005 2:16:27 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I lost my car keys.....and now I have to walk everywhere...)
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