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Lots of Journalists, Little News - Cardinals' Silence Leaves Media Frustrated
Zenit News Agency ^ | April 15, 2005

Posted on 04/16/2005 4:06:48 AM PDT by NYer

ROME, APRIL 15, 2005 (Zenit.org).- The 6,000 journalists, photographers and television cameramen who arrived in Rome to follow John Paul II's funeral and the start of the conclave, are all looking for the same thing: news.

The enormous interest the world has to know how the cardinals are preparing for the election of the new pope is running up against the tight control of information on the part of the Vatican.

Correspondents and special envoys walk up and down the two halls of the Vatican press office and around St. Peter's Square looking for something, anything.

The cardinals are obliged to take an oath "to maintain rigorous secrecy with regard to all matters in any way related to the election of the Roman Pontiff or those which, by their very nature, during the vacancy of the Apostolic See, call for the same secrecy," according to the apostolic constitution "Universi Dominici Gregis," No. 12. That leaves reporters very little to report on.

With the decision of the cardinals last Saturday to not give any interviews even before the start of the conclave, in order to prepare with a greater spirit of recollection and prayer, news has become even more scarce.

The only official sources are statements published by Vatican spokesman Joaquín Navarro Valls. He says at the end of each morning that there is a general congregation of cardinals. His reports, however, do not give details.

He states that the meeting took place, how many cardinals attended, the topic discussed, and in general who spoke, without naming names.

Dozens of journalists wait for the cardinals to exit the meetings, asking them how the meetings are going, without receiving any responses.

The more experienced correspondents, the "Vaticanists" of Italian newspapers, are the ones shaping the news for other news agencies.

Two Italian newspapers published the names of two cardinals who they see as leading contenders in the election. The publication went so far as to say that one had 40 or 50 votes.

Neither of the two newspapers quoted sources or explained how they got the opinion of the 40 or 50 cardinals alluded to, despite the oath they have taken. The news, however, has spread to all news agencies.

The sources also speak of an alleged "confrontation" between "conservatives" and "liberals."

The big news today was the installation and first tests of the chimney from which the smoke will rise announcing the result of the votes during the conclave.

Some 6,000 journalists were gathered to watch Vatican workers make smoke come out of the chimney.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cardinals; cary; conclave; media; pope; sistinechapel; vatican
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Some 6,000 journalists were gathered to watch Vatican workers make smoke come out of the chimney.


Press photographers and news camera crews film workmen installing a new chimney on top of the Vatican's Sistine Chapel, April 15, 2005. During the conclave voting, If the necessary majority has not been reached, the ballots and tally sheets are placed in a stove and burned with an additive to produce black smoke. If a pope has been elected, they are burned with another additive to produce white smoke. REUTERS/Kimimasa Mayama

1 posted on 04/16/2005 4:06:48 AM PDT by NYer
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Italian Cardinal Salvatore De Giorgi walks past photographers while attending a Mass, presided over by Monsignor Piergiorgio Silvano Nesti, in St. Peter's Basilica April 15, 2005. Vatican workers hoisted a chimney on the roof of the Sistine Chapel on Friday as preparations got under way for the conclave of cardinals to elect a successor to Pope John Paul. REUTERS/Tony Gentile

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3 posted on 04/16/2005 4:08:20 AM PDT by NYer ("America needs much prayer, lest it lose its soul." John Paul II)
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Newly installed tables lie under Michaelangelo's frescoes in the Vatican's Sistine Chapel before next week's conclave April 16, 2005. When Roman Catholic cardinals vote in the Vatican for a new pope next week, they will swear an oath before God in Latin and then cast ballots written in the Church's official language. REUTERS/Osservatore Romano/Pool
4 posted on 04/16/2005 4:12:54 AM PDT by NYer ("America needs much prayer, lest it lose its soul." John Paul II)
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Reporter #132 ... "I see white smoke!"

Reporter #528 ... "I see gray smoke!"

Reporter #13 ... "I see black smoke!"

Reporter #176 ... "I can't see!"

Reporter #213 ... "I don't smoke!"



Announcer ... "There you have it folks! ... Live from the Vatican!" ... "Now back to you Chris."

5 posted on 04/16/2005 4:23:38 AM PDT by G.Mason (If you are broken ... it is because you are brittle.)
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Outdoor surveillance camera--$549. Smoke Alarm--$14. 'Six Thousand 'journalists' on expense accounts--Priceless.

6 posted on 04/16/2005 4:27:00 AM PDT by elli1
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To: elli1

very nice..will thee be a webcam broadcast of the Vatican chimney 24/7?


7 posted on 04/16/2005 4:29:41 AM PDT by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL)
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To: Great Prophet Zarquon
Cockroaches, all.

The media!

8 posted on 04/16/2005 4:33:18 AM PDT by OldFriend (MAJOR TAMMY DUCKWORTH.....INSPIRATIONAL)
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To: ken5050

Try this.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1379123/posts

(I didn't test to see if it works cuz I'm on dialup & am on only my second cup of coffee...)


9 posted on 04/16/2005 4:39:22 AM PDT by elli1
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I hope none of the Cardinals have been watching the antics of the Democrats in the U.S.Senate. If so we may have a fillibuster and the conservative Cardinals may have to resort to the nuclear,I mean, the Holy Spririt option.
That would be a disgusting option for the liberals,trusting in God.


10 posted on 04/16/2005 4:46:36 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: elli1

works great, thanks.


11 posted on 04/16/2005 4:53:38 AM PDT by united1000
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To: NYer

I thought the chairs are supposed to be hanging so that the Cardinals' feet do not touch the earth?


12 posted on 04/16/2005 5:25:54 AM PDT by paudio (Four More Years..... Let's Use Them Wisely...)
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To: NYer

I laughed OUT LOUD when I read the title of this thread. FINALLY!!! Someone who just doesn't give a darn and isn't playing their game AT ALL!! I love it!! I hope that's not sacreligious or anything - reminds me of the nuns who steal the distributor cap in "Sound of Music."


13 posted on 04/16/2005 5:49:56 AM PDT by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden; it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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I feel so sorry for them. </ extreme sarcasm>


15 posted on 04/16/2005 5:58:39 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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I hope that's not sacreligious or anything - reminds me of the nuns who steal the distributor cap in "Sound of Music."

Not at all! I laughed out loud when I saw that picture of the photographers with cameras focused on a chimney. Their frustration is refreshing! Sort of how we feel here when we read the usual news stories that have been skewed to suit the leftist agenda.

16 posted on 04/16/2005 6:00:37 AM PDT by NYer ("America needs much prayer, lest it lose its soul." John Paul II)
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To: NYer

What's the over/under on how many votes taken till a new Pope is chosen.


17 posted on 04/16/2005 6:01:12 AM PDT by Semper Paratus (-)
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Most in the MSM view the entire proceedings with scorn, so we will be treated to more commentary along the lines of: the Vatican murdered millions in Africa (AIDS/HIV and condom use), refuses to allow women to participate fully as priests, etc.. And how they'd better elect a Pope prepared to change the Church and fall in with the feminist/Liberal world view. Or else. The 'or else' they will trot out is empty churches, falling revenues, and more AIDS' dead. You have to wonder why they bother to rail against the Catholic Church and its beliefs when they think faith in the Creator is all nonsense.


18 posted on 04/16/2005 6:15:05 AM PDT by hershey
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And how they'd better elect a Pope prepared to change the Church and fall in with the feminist/Liberal world view. Or else. The 'or else' they will trot out is empty churches, falling revenues, and more AIDS' dead.

And what they don't report is that exactly the opposite happens.

The article mentions a confrontation between the conservatives and the liberals and that is a very real possibility. It would not be a surprise for the conclave to take at least a week, IMO.

19 posted on 04/16/2005 6:21:26 AM PDT by Desdemona
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To: Great Prophet Zarquon

Next thing they (press animals) will be suing for access to the deliberations -

I hope they get so frustrated their tiny heads will spin around and around and the pea soup will be everywhere -


20 posted on 04/16/2005 6:25:55 AM PDT by SusaninOhio
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