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Dalai Lama visit may strain Sun Valley services (Bad enough we have Californians moving here)
NWCN ^ | 04/14/2005 | (Associated Press)

Posted on 04/15/2005 6:05:08 AM PDT by bedolido

BOISE, Idaho - Sun Valley is used to hosting hundreds of thousands of visitors annually, but a planned Sept. 11 visit by the Dalai Lama could draw 100,000 for one event - and that has law enforcement and tourism officials scrambling. Details such as visitor housing and security loom large.

The Nobel Peace Prize-winning spiritual leader of Tibetan Buddhists will visit the famous mountain resort community on the fourth anniversary of the terrorist attacks that rocked America.

Walt Femling, the sheriff of rural Blaine County, met visit organizers Wednesday, accompanied by officials including his disaster services coordinator. He said he fears the event could dominate his officers' time in coming months.

According to a tentative schedule, the Dalai Lama will speak at a land preserve owned by The Nature Conservancy, located south of Sun Valley near the tiny town of Picabo, population 50.

"They will helicopter His Holiness to the site, down the long sliver of valley and high mountains, to this open space filled with thousands of waiting people," according to a statement provided to the Associated Press by the local visitors bureau.

On Sept. 12, he'll meet U.S. business leaders in a private session, followed by an afternoon visit with as many as 12,000 Idaho children.

Finally, on Sept. 13, he is scheduled to bless a Tibetan prayer wheel in a ceremony in nearby Ketchum.

The Buddhist leader lives in exile in India and leads Tibetans who have resisted half a century of Chinese rule. A call to his New York office to discuss why he chose Sun Valley for the Sept. 11 anniversary visit was not immediately returned Wednesday.

Event planners include Renee Klein, who worked with the 2002 Salt Lake City Winter Olympics organizing committee. She says shuttle buses will be needed, to help ferry visitors staying in accommodations as far away as Boise and Salt Lake City.

The Sun Valley area, made famous by celebrities including Ernest Hemingway and actor Gary Cooper - and now Tom Hanks and Jamie Lee Curtis - has hotel and condominium space for just 5,700 people, tourism officials said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: dalai; lama; services; strain; sun; valley

1 posted on 04/15/2005 6:05:08 AM PDT by bedolido
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To: bedolido

So...Dalai Lama is a Minnesota Gopher fan, then ?


2 posted on 04/15/2005 6:08:28 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: bedolido

Yea, that Dalai Lama. Always stirring up trouble. I heard he runs with a pretty rough crowd.


3 posted on 04/15/2005 6:09:03 AM PDT by dmz
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To: bedolido

I can't help but laugh. The Dalai Lama used to live near me when I was in college and I often met him on the street. It's hard to imagine him drawing these types of crowds when I remember him as a very quiet, humble man always walking quietly about.


4 posted on 04/15/2005 6:14:56 AM PDT by twigs
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To: bedolido

"(Bad enough we have Californians moving here)"

I don't quite get it


5 posted on 04/15/2005 6:21:03 AM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: nuconvert

my attempt at sarcasm. sorry if it offended you.


6 posted on 04/15/2005 6:22:31 AM PDT by bedolido (I can forgive you for killing my sons, but I cannot forgive you for forcing me to kill your sons)
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To: bedolido

-"They will helicopter His Holiness to the site, down the long sliver of valley and high mountains, to this open space filled with thousands of waiting people,"-

Hoo-boy - that beautiful open space is gonna look like a trash heap once the crowd is dispersed.


7 posted on 04/15/2005 6:25:01 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: bedolido; cspackler

So I jump ship in Hong Kong and make my way over to Tibet, and I get on as a looper at a course over in the Himalayas. A looper, you know, a caddy, a looper, a jock.

So, I tell them I'm a pro jock, and who do you think they give me? The Dalai Lama, himself. Twelfth son of the Lama. The flowing robes, the grace, bald... striking. So, I'm on the first tee with him. I give him the driver. He hauls off and whacks one -- big hitter, the Lama -- long, into a ten-thousand foot crevice, right at the base of this glacier.

And do you know what the Lama says? Gunga galunga...gunga -- gunga galunga.

So we finish the eighteenth and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consiousness."

So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.


8 posted on 04/15/2005 6:26:40 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Gunga galunga.)
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To: AmericanChef
They will helicopter His Holiness to the site, down the long sliver of valley and high mountains, to this open space filled with thousands of waiting people

I'm sorry, but the first thing that popped into my mind was, "this has 'South Park episode' written all over it".

:)

That aside, I have tremendous respect for the Dalai Lama. Given the opportunity to see him in person, I'd probably be getting on one of those shuttle busses to Idaho too.

9 posted on 04/15/2005 6:32:27 AM PDT by SavageRepublican (high on a hill was a lonely goatherd, lay ee odl lay ee odl lay HEE-HOOO)
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To: SavageRepublican

Just out of curiosity, why do you have tremendous respect for the DL?


10 posted on 04/15/2005 7:35:26 AM PDT by razoroccam (Then in the name of Allah, they will let loose the Germs of War (http://www.booksurge.com))
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To: razoroccam

I've read 'art of happiness' and a few of his other books, as well as some by various advisors and other Buddhist practioners. They are all very good reads. Meditation is a very good and relaxing practice and the Dahli Lama is a very wise and good person.

I recall reading something abuot him a year or so ago where he happened to be in the same room (like during a TV interview switch or something) as Al Sharpton and some other Dem politicians. And he said something like:
"Politicians I think just say what people want to hear".

Forget exactly, but it was pretty funny.


11 posted on 04/15/2005 10:28:35 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/foundingoftheunitedstates.htm)
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To: razoroccam
Hi I'm back...(busy day here today).

I've read quite a bit of his writing, and like Travis here, was pretty impressed by his wisdom and gentleness.

I practice meditation as a stress-management method, and have found him to be a source of inspiration.

12 posted on 04/15/2005 11:45:49 AM PDT by SavageRepublican (high on a hill was a lonely goatherd, lay ee odl lay ee odl lay HEE-HOOO)
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To: SavageRepublican; traviskicks
Thanks to both of you for your posts. Again, curiosity here, and I hope I am not pushing the bounds of inquisitiveness.

Why would a person from a Judeo-Christian background find a person of Buddhist background a source of wisdom? While the Buddha did emphasize compassion and was a very wise soul (which is why the Dalai Lama is a Mongolian translation of Ocean of Wisdom), the roots of Buddhism are very different from Christianity/Judaism. For example, the Buddha never acknowledged the presence of God. He also denied the existence of a human soul.

Similarly, Yoga (which is "Hindu" and not Buddhist) is not just a stress relieving mechanism - the physical exercises of Yoga are a small part of its entirety. The greater emphasis is to still the mind to experience the unity between the human soul and the eternal/God (hence the word Yoga, which in Sanskrit means union).

Apologies if I am being inappropriate in asking these questions.
13 posted on 04/15/2005 5:35:12 PM PDT by razoroccam (Then in the name of Allah, they will let loose the Germs of War (http://www.booksurge.com))
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To: razoroccam; SavageRepublican

"Apologies if I am being inappropriate in asking these questions."
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Not at all! It is good that you are curious. First, I think a lot of comparison between eastern and western cultures gets lost in translation and, more importantly, in general human communication. God is a difficult thing to define and different people have different notions of Him. The same with a soul, etc...

Meditation is a very benficial practice that should not be tied to any particular religion. Prayer is a form of meditation (and vice versa).

A few weekends ago I met a Christian women who was an 'expert' meditator, she said it enourmously enhanced her ability to be close to God. It can enhance the practice of any religion, or can be done just by itself.

Basically it teaches one to calm the mind, which is undoubtably why SavageRepublican uses it as a stress releasor (as you can tell he is normally quite Savage):). By calming the mind you become more intune with ones body, emotions, thoughts, and, in the JudeoChristian sense, if one was praying then your prayers would be clearer and perhaps you would be more liable to 'receive'(if one does this). There are various exercises you can do to train the mind and get it more under your control.

My Christian friend used meditation to completely relax and still the mind before prayer.

Your correct that Yoga is actually a religion, but you can still separate out the physical exercises if one wishes to partake in them. I'm not too familiar with Yoga, although I do stretches before meditation.

When the Dalai Lama visits the US he normally speaks of meditation etc.. in this mostly non-religion-specific way, which I think is a rarity among religious leaders and, in my view, very positive. I've also read some of the books on 'mind life conferences'(or something) series of meetings he's had with various western scientists where they discuss eastern ideas about the mind with western neuroscientists, sleep scientists, psychiatrists etc... They have hooked up monks to EEG, MRI machines etc... and seen marked differences in the brainwaves, even while not meditating.
It is refreshing to me to see a religious authority so big on embracing scientific research - in effect saying "We know meditation is good and beneficial, we will help you scientists do whatever you need to prove it".

oh and besides, he's against the Commies. :)
Reminds me a bit of John Paul. You can love the guy just cuz he and Reagan brought down Communism in Poland.

btw, if your interested I wrote a piece expanding on some of these ideas a bit more (especially definitions of God etc):
http://www.neoperspectives.com/theoryofgod.htm

I am also doing some writing on meditation, which I can ping you with when im through if you wish.



14 posted on 04/15/2005 6:52:26 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/foundingoftheunitedstates.htm)
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To: Constitution Day

Yes, but I already knew all of this... I'm still stoked about the total consiousness thing.


15 posted on 04/15/2005 7:55:10 PM PDT by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: cspackler
Of course, I was aware that you knew.
Nevertheless, I had to ping you, being a Cinderella story and all.

PS: Gunga galunga.

16 posted on 04/15/2005 7:58:18 PM PDT by Constitution Day (So many kooks. So little time.)
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To: Constitution Day
You beast, you savage! Come on, bark like a dog for me....

Anyway, I gotta save the poontang line for the next troll that comes along.

17 posted on 04/15/2005 8:02:21 PM PDT by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: twigs

My uncle is a close friend of the Dalai Lama, and he would stay at my uncle's home frequently when visiting the Beltway. I think of him as his Holiness. My uncle thinks of him as that, and as a friend. Fortunate, I think.


18 posted on 04/15/2005 8:05:13 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (" It is not true that life is one damn thing after another-it's one damn thing over and over." ESV)
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To: traviskicks

Thanks, I read your fascinating piece briefly. I'll read it again in detail.


19 posted on 04/16/2005 3:40:35 AM PDT by razoroccam (Then in the name of Allah, they will let loose the Germs of War (http://www.booksurge.com))
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