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Mark Steyn: The Icewoman Cometh [To Hill and back]
National Review Online ^ | April 25, 2005 issue | Mark Steyn

Posted on 04/13/2005 1:10:44 PM PDT by Constitution Day

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To: Dog Gone

Giuliani already announced he isnt running for Governor or Senator in 06. She is going to be reelected in a landslide in NY.


41 posted on 04/13/2005 1:56:40 PM PDT by LongsforReagan (I hate Howard Dean and everything he stands for.)
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To: Dog Gone
If Hillary runs for re-election in 2006 and is beaten by Guiliani

She definitely will run in '06. The fun will be in watching her declare that she will finish her term and not run for the presidency and absolutely no one will believe her.

42 posted on 04/13/2005 2:01:03 PM PDT by Snardius
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To: Dog Gone
In general, I agree with you. However, I read a Freeper posting the other day that offered the following scenario: Hillary claims 43% of the popular vote just by showing up which is precisely the same % that got Bill Clinton elected in 1992. Say in 2008 that a third party candidate emerges who runs to the right on border control, guns, trade issues, etc; Say that third party can get 10 to 15% of the vote mostly by siphoning off votes from conservatives or moderate repubs. Wouldn't that set up Hill to win just like her husband did in 1992??
43 posted on 04/13/2005 2:01:37 PM PDT by rockthecasbah
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To: Dog Gone
In general, I agree with you. However, I read a Freeper posting the other day that offered the following scenario: Hillary claims 43% of the popular vote just by showing up which is precisely the same % that got Bill Clinton elected in 1992. Say in 2008 that a third party candidate emerges who runs to the right on border control, guns, trade issues, etc; Say that third party can get 10 to 15% of the vote mostly by siphoning off votes from conservatives or moderate repubs. Wouldn't that set up Hill to win just like her husband did in 1992??
44 posted on 04/13/2005 2:01:42 PM PDT by rockthecasbah
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To: Rummyfan

"Who can defeat this Be-otch and send her back to Chappaqua????? George Allen? Mitt Romney? Jeb Bush?"

Dr. Condoleeza Rice.


45 posted on 04/13/2005 2:03:04 PM PDT by Trimegistus
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To: AmishDude
it's when she gives speeches

This is very true, she can almost get hysterical.

Remember that one speech where she was literally screeching? People posted a link to it here (I wish I had it) and it was so strange. She really lost it. It's almost like she becomes possessed.

Hmmmm. Maybe she does. ;)

46 posted on 04/13/2005 2:08:16 PM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: Constitution Day
Hillary(!) is all the left has left- the media will do anything to put her in office.

If she runs for pres we will have to, and will have the opportunities to, destroy the current news media.


"...that robotic I Speak Your Weight voice. "
Mark always has some good ones!

47 posted on 04/13/2005 2:08:43 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Constitution Day

No doubt she's running - when Bill went with Bush to the Pope's funeral, he couldn't stop gushing about how great it was to be back on Air Force One.

And the country will eat it up. It will be 1992 nostalgia all over again. Nirvana instead of Fleetwood Mac. Carville and Begala. The press won't be able to shut up about her. Bill back in the White House as the "first man". Ahhh....

If she gets elected, I promise I'm moving to the Congo.


48 posted on 04/13/2005 2:09:05 PM PDT by Toskrin (Power corrupts, but absolute power is pretty cool!)
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To: rockthecasbah

What if things really get stirred up and a candidate out there runs to the LEFT of Hillary if she tries to go to much to the middle?


49 posted on 04/13/2005 2:12:11 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty ("Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind." —Albert Einstein)
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To: Kerretarded

God preserve North Dakota!


50 posted on 04/13/2005 2:16:32 PM PDT by Nakota
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To: Pokey78

Thanks for the ping, Pokie! I'm going to hope that Steyn is wrong on this one and that sHrillary will never become president. (My dog will go deaf from the shrieking during the campaign, I'm afraid.)

I don't know about you, but in some ways, I'm still exhausted from the drama (and leftist fraud) of the last election. It is just way too soon to be looking at who the GOP candidate is. Some bright meteors may burn out (think of poor Bernie Kerik) and some that seem long-shots now may accomplish things in the next couple of years that bring them to the top (Barbour? Coleman? Condi? Allen?) Whoever it may be, know that the GOP has a much, much better bench than the Dems.


51 posted on 04/13/2005 2:18:52 PM PDT by alwaysconservative (Did you know it is impossible to lick your elbow?)
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To: Constitution Day
It would actually be to the Democrats’ advantage if the Byrd-Kos union were to crack up, but instead their union seems merely cracked, like a miscast double-act thrown together by a desperate burlesque agent.

Ha! Steyn can turn a phrase!


52 posted on 04/13/2005 2:21:42 PM PDT by rdb3 (To the world, you're one person. To one person, you may be the world.)
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To: Constitution Day
Steyn greatly overrates Hillary's ability as a public speaker. She remains shrill and difficult to listen to for more than 60 seconds. Whenever she departs from her prepared text the "you know's" begin to flow and her hard edge shows. She will not look presidential in a debate.
53 posted on 04/13/2005 2:22:09 PM PDT by Senator_Blutarski (No good deed goes unpunished.)
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To: rockthecasbah

Theoretically that could happen, but remember that Hillary has the highest negative approval ratings of any potential candidate out there. There will be about 49% of the people voting to STOP HILLARY, and I think most people would cast their vote strategically in order to accomplish that.


54 posted on 04/13/2005 2:29:20 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: AmishDude

I'm a woman and you are quite right. When Hillary speaks I turn off TV or radio. I can't remember the last time I heard a more annoying voice.


55 posted on 04/13/2005 2:41:54 PM PDT by maxwellp
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To: NCSteve

BTTT - I'm in transition between church and Girl Scouts. Where are my dry shoes?


56 posted on 04/13/2005 3:04:32 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Do not fear the words of a sinner, for his splendor will turn into dung and worms.)
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To: Constitution Day

Please God, spare us from another President Clinton.


57 posted on 04/13/2005 3:04:40 PM PDT by lawgirl (Please support me as I walk 60 miles in 3 days to support breast cancer research! (see my profile!))
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To: Kerretarded

"What if things really get stirred up and a candidate out there runs to the LEFT of Hillary if she tries to go to much to the middle?"

That would be even more entertaining than if Howard Dean had gotten the Dem nomination in 2004. I relish the possibility, even if remote.


58 posted on 04/13/2005 3:07:37 PM PDT by rockthecasbah
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To: Constitution Day
but instead their union seems merely cracked, like a miscast double-act thrown together by a desperate burlesque agent.

Golly! what a choice phrase!

59 posted on 04/13/2005 3:38:27 PM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: G.Mason

The election is not wrapped up yet. Most did not think she would win as a carpet-bagger in New York. I laughed at the thought of her winning there. She did.

I agree that the opposition to her will be great, but there is nothing worse than assuming victory over someone who has never had her ambition satisfied.

I will go door to door to help defeat her, if she is nominated. I think her health problems will get in the way. Collapsing during a speech is not a good sign.

Bill should be dead by 2008. I think he would help her in many ways. Some people like him (though I can't see why).


60 posted on 04/13/2005 3:38:52 PM PDT by sine_nomine (Protect the weakest of the weak - the unborn babies.)
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