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RUSSIA TO LEAD IN ECONOMIC GROWTH FOR 30 COMING YEARS
RIA Novosti's ^ | 2005-04-12 10:27 | Mark Zavadsky

Posted on 04/12/2005 9:28:41 AM PDT by jb6

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To: jb6
most of the economic life of a modern nation, US included, is not in the small towns (many of which here in the US are equally dieing off) but in the super urbanized centers.

BWAAAHAHAHA! That's what the bleu state enclaves said aftre Kerry's loss, when they seriously debated seceding from the union! Where would the hicks in "Jesus Land be without US?

I think NYC would miss the farms and ranches of the midwest (maybe even of New Jersey), the truckers from Ohio, and the mines of the Appalachians LONG before the rest of us would miss the stockbrokers, insurance agencies, bankers, ad agencies, lamestream media headquarters and the garment district... besides, without JesusLand, wherever would the New Yawkers dump their trash and whoever would thay have to feel intellectually superior to? Super Urban Centers as the economic life of America... indeed.
41 posted on 04/12/2005 11:40:51 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: DustyMoment
I don't think you can take this at face value. Russia is going to leverage the sale of its pollution credits from Kyoto to increase its economic growth. With a little economic manipulation and mumbo-jumbo, they will suddenly become an "economic growth leader", even though it is unlikely that any real economic growth will occur.

But those credits are still real economic activity, that will put money into Russia and stimulate growth. It does not matter that they are mearly selling imaginary items for no productive reason.

42 posted on 04/12/2005 11:45:01 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: silverleaf
I think NYC would miss the farms and ranches of the midwest (maybe even of New Jersey), the truckers from Ohio, and the mines of the Appalachians

Again, this is service and support for the industry and banking sectors in the cities, blue and red. How many tens of millions of ranchers are there?

43 posted on 04/12/2005 12:05:36 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: crz

Actually, every day the trade deficit hits all time highs. You're right.


44 posted on 04/12/2005 12:06:27 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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Here is where I part ways with ya.

There are three industries the world depends on. Mining, Logging, and Farming..or minerals, forest products, and ag. if you should so choose.

Without even one of those, we all cease to exsist as a society. And all three are under the most severe of eco attack.

Can you or anyone exsist without the materials and products these produce for our every day life in this age-or any age for that matter?


45 posted on 04/12/2005 12:23:22 PM PDT by crz
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Without the industries that utilize them, we wouldn't have mining or logging.


46 posted on 04/12/2005 12:38:00 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: Always Right

The best part is the EU in a desperate attempt to kill US industry, bribed the Russians into signing Kyoto and taking their (EU) money.


47 posted on 04/12/2005 12:39:08 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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The best part is the EU in a desperate attempt to kill US industry, bribed the Russians into signing Kyoto and taking their (EU) money.

The weird part is Russia did not want to sign Kyoto, they had to have their arm twisted to do it. Without Russia, there was no Kyoto, so Russia actually gave the EU an easy out where they could have blamed the US for Kyoto not being ratified. The EU would be off the hook. But instead, the dimwits convinced Russia to sign and hung themselves in the process. So much for anybody claiming that these socialists are smart.

48 posted on 04/12/2005 12:49:43 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: jb6

I don’t remember exactly, but there were a lot of lawsuits flying around. I think it was a collective action representing people claiming that they were either billed excessively by her “psychics” or some kind of predatorily behavior with frequent callbacks.

The final straw came a few months later when it was uncovered that she was from the US (Illinois I think), not Jamaca, and the accent was a phony as it sounded. I guess she just took the money and retired.


49 posted on 04/12/2005 1:22:31 PM PDT by elfman2 (@ copyright 2005)
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To: Always Right
But those credits are still real economic activity . . . .

I don't disagree. But it is not economic activity as we traditionally think of economic activity, i.e. wealth that creates new jobs that lead to productivity, etc. The question of how far these revenue credits will trickle down to help Russian workers is still a major part of the equation.

IMO, the revenues from selling pollution credits is not going to trickle down past Putin and the government higher ups.
50 posted on 04/12/2005 1:26:03 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: jb6

I made no threats. Merely stated a conviction based on observations.

Thankfully, God is merciful to all who truly seek him out of a sincere heart. I am needy and thankful of such mercy.


51 posted on 04/12/2005 2:36:22 PM PDT by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: jb6

BTW, I think

"interpretation" is a very wrong term for a lot of those prophecies.

Just reading the newspaper headlines and the Biblical prophecy is quite sufficient to see the 1:1 correltion on some of them. NO interpretation needed.


52 posted on 04/12/2005 2:37:25 PM PDT by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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Ahhh, I see. Then we should take into account Great Britains slide over the 20th century when it virtually lost all its raw material sites over the world should'nt we?

When you havent the materials that are/were logged or mined, then there are no materials to make products from now is there..so then, no need for manufacturing facilities.

Keep in mind that those plants find it by in far cheaper and easier to simply move close in to the areas that supply those raw materials.

BTW. IP, Stora Enso and a couple others have announced billion 's' dollar 's' plant investments for Brasil in the next years. IP will announce its intentions to do the same in Russia very soon. So, they intend to move where the wood is since our eco-creep friends have virtually locked up all those natural resources here in the USA.

Are you prepaired to move to Brasil or South America? That is where our manufacturing plants are moving to.


53 posted on 04/13/2005 11:53:22 AM PDT by crz
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And it's one sorry state of affairs.


54 posted on 04/13/2005 12:39:55 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: jb6

And yet..the American people like the sheep they have become, think that all is well, just let us have our enjoyment.


55 posted on 04/13/2005 1:50:28 PM PDT by crz
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Look how many free traitors and neocon(artists) come on this site to instantly defend it all.


56 posted on 04/13/2005 2:34:04 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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Japan had been doing pretty darn well with next to nothing. They import just about everything: oil, metal, etc. They are capable of thriving nonetheless, although, it's easier if you have the raw materials to begin with.

Our main problem with manufacturing is governmental: an anti-profit tax structure and a legal minefield.

We should also unleash our timber industry and oil. We need to encourage mining, particularly in the Escalante Staircase. We should deregulate windmills and tidal generators as much as possible, too.

Combine that with fewer lawsuits and the national sales tax, and we will be an economic dynamo.

FReegards.....


57 posted on 04/16/2005 7:44:00 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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