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Organic-Rich Soup-in-the-Ocean of Early Earth [Miller experiment revisited]
REDNOVA NEWS ^ | 08 April 2005 | Staff

Posted on 04/08/2005 7:39:14 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

A new University of Colorado at Boulder study indicates Earth in its infancy probably had substantial quantities of hydrogen in its atmosphere, a surprising finding that may alter the way many scientists think about how life began on the planet.

Published in the April 7 issue of Science Express, the online edition of Science Magazine, the study concludes traditional models estimating hydrogen escape from Earth's atmosphere several billions of years ago are flawed. The new study indicates up to 40 percent of the early atmosphere was hydrogen, implying a more favorable climate for the production of pre-biotic organic compounds like amino acids, and ultimately, life.

The paper was authored by doctoral student Feng Tian, Professor Owen Toon and Research Associate Alexander Pavlov of CU-Boulder's Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics with Hans De Sterk of the University of Waterloo. The study was supported by the NASA Institute of Astrobiology and NASA's Exobiology Program.

"I didn't expect this result when we began the study," said Tian, a doctoral student in CU-Boulder's Astrobiology Center at LASP and chief author of the paper. "If Earth's atmosphere was hydrogen-rich as we have shown, organic compounds could easily have been produced."

Scientists believe Earth was formed about 4.6 billion years ago, and geologic evidence indicates life may have begun on Earth roughly a billion years later.

"This study indicates that the carbon dioxide-rich, hydrogen-poor Mars and Venus-like model of Earth's early atmosphere that scientists have been working with for the last 25 years is incorrect," said Toon. In such atmospheres, organic molecules are not produced by photochemical reactions or electrical discharges.

Toon said the premise that early Earth had a CO2-dominated atmosphere long after its formation has caused many scientists to look for clues to the origin of life in hydrothermal vents in the sea, fresh-water hot springs or those delivered to Earth from space via meteorites or dust.

The team concluded that even if the atmospheric CO2 concentrations were large, the hydrogen concentrations would have been larger. "In that case, the production of organic compounds with the help of electrical discharge or photochemical reactions may have been efficient," said Toon.

Amino acids that likely formed from organic materials in the hydrogen-rich environment may have accumulated in the oceans or in bays, lakes and swamps, enhancing potential birthplaces for life, the team reported.

The new study indicates the escape of hydrogen from Earth's early atmosphere was probably two orders of magnitude slower than scientists previously believed, said Tian. The lower escape rate is based in part on the new estimates for past temperatures in the highest reaches of Earth's atmosphere some 5,000 miles in altitude where it meets the space environment.

While previous calculations assumed Earth's temperature at the top of the atmosphere to be well over 1,500 degrees F several billion years ago, the new mathematical models show temperatures would have been twice as cool back then. The new calculations involve supersonic flows of gas escaping from Earth's upper atmosphere as a planetary wind, according to the study.

"There seems to have been a blind assumption for years that atmospheric hydrogen was escaping from Earth three or four billion years ago as efficiently as it is today," said Pavlov. "We show the escape was limited considerably back then by low temperatures in the upper atmosphere and the supply of energy from the sun."

Despite somewhat higher ultraviolet radiation levels from the sun in Earth's infancy, the escape rate of hydrogen would have remained low, Tian said. The escaping hydrogen would have been balanced by hydrogen being vented by Earth's volcanoes several billion years ago, making it a major component of the atmosphere.

In 1953, University of Chicago graduate student Stanley Miller sent an electrical current through a chamber containing methane, ammonia, hydrogen and water, yielding amino acids, considered to be the building blocks of life. "I think this study makes the experiments by Miller and others relevant again," Toon said. "In this new scenario, organics can be produced efficiently in the early atmosphere, leading us back to the organic-rich soup-in-the-ocean concept."


Stanley Miller's classic "primordial soup" experimental setup,
with a simulated ocean, lightning and broth
of hydrogen, methane, ammonia and water.

In the new CU-Boulder scenario, it is a hydrogen and CO2-dominated atmosphere that leads to the production of organic molecules, not the methane and ammonia atmosphere used in Miller's experiment, Toon said.

Tian and other team members said the research effort will continue. The duration of the hydrogen-rich atmosphere on early Earth still is unknown, they said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abiogenesis; biogenesis; crevolist; earlyearth; millerexperiment; originoflife
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To: balrog666

Then what was the relationship between speed and accuracy? As my Georgia Tech grads sis, brother in law, and future father in law have all noted: Speed decreases accuracy. This is a rule that any gun shows. Any multi-tasker can tell you as well.

It's a principle of mechanics.


361 posted on 04/08/2005 7:03:25 PM PDT by MacDorcha ("Do you want the e-mail copy or the fax?" "Just the fax, ma'am.")
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To: js1138

Well, would slowing down amino acids and living cells be able to show us any further details? Would the changes not be more obvious if we could witness them at slower rates?


362 posted on 04/08/2005 7:06:40 PM PDT by MacDorcha ("Do you want the e-mail copy or the fax?" "Just the fax, ma'am.")
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To: concerned about politics

Life created in a laboratory demonstrates intelligent design, does it not?


363 posted on 04/08/2005 7:06:46 PM PDT by attiladhun2
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To: attiladhun2
Life created in a laboratory demonstrates intelligent design, does it not?

I've been expecting you. Please see post number 19.

364 posted on 04/08/2005 7:11:46 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: Tribune7
Jesus loves you.

In His House at R'lyeh, Cthulhu awaits His time to eat you.

365 posted on 04/08/2005 7:13:32 PM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: MacDorcha
It's a principle of mechanics.

Not everything is mechanics. Nothing is universal.

Be specific, it won't hurt you.

366 posted on 04/08/2005 7:14:40 PM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: balrog666
In His House at R'lyeh, Cthulhu awaits His time to eat you.

You think Cthulhu exists?

367 posted on 04/08/2005 7:22:26 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: MacDorcha
Well, would slowing down amino acids and living cells be able to show us any further details? Would the changes not be more obvious if we could witness them at slower rates?

I don't think you have a clear idea of how this research is conducted. No one is likely to duplicate abiogenesis with a Miller type experiment. The insights needed to figure out how it could happen (not necessarily how it did happen) will come in bits and spurts, and most likely from work in unrelated areas. A lot of problems are being attacked simultaneously, many in the process of medical research.

There is a project like SETI online attempting to solve the problems of protein folding. This is medical research, but it might provide answers to how the first proteins evolved (Assuming they did, Andrew).

I rather doubt that any brute force research project will create life from scratch.

368 posted on 04/08/2005 7:29:46 PM PDT by js1138 (There are 10 kinds of people: those who read binary, and those who don't.)
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To: AntiGuv
My guess is that whoever that is is dead. That's OK, I would accept photographs of dead gods into evidence.

Did Alexander the Great exist?

369 posted on 04/08/2005 7:31:50 PM PDT by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: G Larry
Frogs become princes only in fairy tales and biology textbooks.
If you ever watch a Discovery Channel or National Geographic program dealing with the origins of life, they always pull this trick. The moderator will start off saying, "it may have happened this way" or evolutionary scientists believe that might have occurred which gave rise to ripsnortus bassackwardus." About halfway through the show he will start to become dogmatic. "Three billions years ago this and that happened that developed into ripsnortus bassackwardus. I have observed this pattern over and again.
370 posted on 04/08/2005 7:40:07 PM PDT by attiladhun2
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To: PatrickHenry

The goal of Darwinists: From chicken soup (monoculturalism) to minestrone soup (multiculturalism).


371 posted on 04/08/2005 7:41:32 PM PDT by mjtobias (Our love for Terri was immense; her parents' love was infinite; God's love is everlasting.)
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To: PatrickHenry

The goal of Darwinists: From chicken soup (monoculturalism) to minestrone soup (multiculturalism).


372 posted on 04/08/2005 7:43:38 PM PDT by mjtobias (Our love for Terri was immense; her parents' love was infinite; God's love is everlasting.)
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To: js1138
The insights needed to figure out how it could happen (not necessarily how it did happen) will come in bits and spurts, and most likely from work in unrelated areas.

We can "see" how a metal bar red hot at one end can be created from the energy in a homogeneously warm metal bar by videotaping the hot bar cooling down and then running the video backwards. Trouble is, that doesn't happen in real life.

373 posted on 04/08/2005 7:53:14 PM PDT by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: AndrewC

But we can also see the bar being heated, say by the sun, and then cooling down at night. If that's not hot enough for you, we could heat it with a lava flow form a volcano. Or from an undersea lava flow.

The universe is full of energy and temperature gradients of all magnitudes and slopes.

The problem I have with your attitude is that you actively seek to discourage research into this topic. If you are right, you need only sit back and gloat. The history of science suggests this is a losing position.


374 posted on 04/08/2005 8:06:07 PM PDT by js1138 (There are 10 kinds of people: those who read binary, and those who don't.)
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To: G Larry; MacDorcha

> What are you calling "proto-life"?

Complex organic molecules that do pretty much everythign that "life" is supposed to do. Self replication, etc.

> what in the heck are you referencing regarding "Life itself has been assembled from non-living components."?

The polio virus was assembled in a lab some months ago using a gene sequence downloaded off the Web, and some raw chemicals.


375 posted on 04/08/2005 8:08:02 PM PDT by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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To: AndrewC
Did you happen to ask how many different amino acids were formed and the length of the longest peptide created for the entire experiment?

The first amino acids were the simple ones like alanine, glycine and methionine. The conversation occurred between the lecture hall and Dr. Miller's office, so I didn't get much time to get in depth results. I would be very interested in knowing whether tryptophane was ever detected. That is pretty darn complex.

376 posted on 04/08/2005 8:20:57 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Amish with an attitude
...lets move on the real problem of synthesizing that pesky cell membrane.

You keep using this example and it belies your lack of basic chemistry knowledge.

Cell membranes arise spontaneously (the lipid part anyway). Its very similar to the soap bubbles you see when washing the dishes.

Before you criticize aspects of abiogenesis research, please try to learn a bit more.

377 posted on 04/08/2005 8:21:07 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: js1138
But we can also see the bar being heated, say by the sun, and then cooling down at night with the same energy available.

Of course, but we don't see the bar warming up at night and cooling down during the day. And your mindreading skills are absolutely abysmal. You have no idea of my attitude. I state what I know or believe to be fact. I give you the reasons for those beliefs or knowledge. I also know that people walk away from Vegas as winners, but I know that they are exceptions, not the rule.

378 posted on 04/08/2005 8:21:32 PM PDT by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: AndrewC
I also know that people walk away from Vegas as winners, but I know that they are exceptions, not the rule.

But there are winners, and in the case of life, they are the ones that reproduce.

379 posted on 04/08/2005 8:29:00 PM PDT by js1138 (There are 10 kinds of people: those who read binary, and those who don't.)
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To: stremba
I strongly suspect that most scientists would shy away from any experiment that would require 1000 years to produce results.

Try writing an RO1 for that project!

380 posted on 04/08/2005 8:30:25 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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