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Talking up a GOP 'hottie' for '08 race
Newsday ^ | April 7, 2005 | James Pinkerton

Posted on 04/07/2005 5:22:22 AM PDT by billorites

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To: MadIvan

Sanford-Rice 2008!


41 posted on 04/07/2005 3:40:04 PM PDT by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find.)
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To: billorites
This is the MSM getting caught sinning by omission...again. And Barbour pushing his contacts to make noise for him. Tancredo actually WON the poll. How come he's not the heir apparent?

USN&WR is all about pushing Zuckerman's favorite pig.

42 posted on 04/07/2005 3:40:51 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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To: The Great Yazoo

SOME of Florida is. Give it that much.

Just look for kudzu growin'.


43 posted on 04/07/2005 3:48:03 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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To: wardaddy

Texas was part of the Confederacy. It has never been Southern. And most Texans will tell you that. They are Texans, not Southerners.

You want to do a survey? Ask the question this way. "Somebody told me you're a Yankee. That's not true--but what are you?"

If someone from Texas doesn't respond "I'm a Texan," I'd be very surprised.

You'll almost never see someone sayin' "I'm a Georgian/Mississippian/Alabaman/Floridian/Carolinian/Missourian/Kentuckian/Tennessean/Virginian" in response. It's always "I'm a Southerner."

But as I mentioned above, the real test is, does kudzu grow there?


44 posted on 04/07/2005 3:54:13 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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To: itsamelman

Not to rag on you, but you realize that photo is heavily shop'd.


45 posted on 04/07/2005 4:00:38 PM PDT by mbraynard
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To: Maria S

I think he was a registered lobbyist for a foreign corp. Or maybe even a foreign government.


46 posted on 04/07/2005 4:04:21 PM PDT by mbraynard
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To: billorites
GOP HOTTIES

Hope the link works.

47 posted on 04/07/2005 4:06:52 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: LibertarianInExile

It cetrainly does grow from Ft Worth east.


48 posted on 04/07/2005 4:07:18 PM PDT by wardaddy ("Finally!, A Man Worth Killing!")
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To: Dean Baker

Is she from the same state? If not they could run on the same ticket.


49 posted on 04/07/2005 4:15:01 PM PDT by Lexinom (You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him.)
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To: wardaddy

You got me on that geography--I was thinking about Beaumont and Nacogdoches and Jasper and considering whether they'd qualify under that rule and perhaps they do. And I don't think even folks from Mississippi would argue that those towns are pretty much the old South.

Still, even though you mentioned Ft. Worth, I bet you don't find a helluvalot of kudzu around Dallas or Ft. Worth any more. I would restrict my retraction to that eastern part--not Dallas or Ft. Worth, which are pretty much Yankeetown South, even though folks in Plano might like to pretend otherwise, putting Southern Living on their coffee table and whatnot.


50 posted on 04/07/2005 4:57:24 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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To: LibertarianInExile; All

You are quite incorrect.

Tancrado won in the first three rounds and was beaten BY BARBOUR in the final Eight. See this page:

http://www.surveysaintlouis.com/marchmadness/elite8.php

As for the rest of this thread, I'm frankly STUNNED that Freepers are reacting on the basis of looks and accent and all that superficial crap. Does no one remember how the MSM pounded and pounded on the notion that Bush (and Reagan) was a stupid dolt and a dangerous cowboy? How Bush could speak well enough to order Clinton a Big Mac?

Most importantly, has everyone forgotten who the Democrat candidate will be?

No one here thinks warm and cuddly Southern Gentleman with easy smile and quick self depreciating wit and powerful, concise rhetoric clothed in the soft velvet of a gentle drawl WON'T play like gangbusters against that plastic crocodile they call the Senator from NY???????

Are you insane?

Haley brings EXACTLY what we need - a distinctive personality. The problem with the Bill Frists and George Allens of the world, for all their proper policy, is they are plain, drab, vanilla, cookie cutter politicians.

Such men don't win the presidency (Except GHWB and that only on Reagan's coat-tails). Haley is distinctive...and that's a GOOD thing.

Add to that that he stands where the clear majority of the voters stand on issues across the board (something else Hitlery can't bring to the table), more political markers to call in than any other man in America (including Rudy) and you have a powerful candidate.

Beyond that, no GOP candidate NEEDS to win the superficial votes on the left coast and in New England and New York to win. The majority of the voters in places like Ohio and Florida are far more interested in the issues than whether or not Haley has good teeth.
YES, there are such stupid voters out there, but they already vote overwhelmingly for Democrats anyway, right (the natural result of stupidity)?

All that said, the lobbyist tag IS a HUGE problem. figure out a way to beat that - or to hang an even bigger anchor around Hitlery's neck, and there's no reason at all he can't win.


51 posted on 04/07/2005 5:05:15 PM PDT by WillRain ("Might have been the losing side, still not convinced it was the wrong one.")
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To: billorites

Nope! Not gonna vote for Haley Barbour.


52 posted on 04/07/2005 5:11:36 PM PDT by blam
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To: mbraynard
Not to rag on you, but you realize that photo is heavily shop'd.

I'm sure that thought crossed my mind at some point as I ogled... er, looked... at that photo, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't one of oh, say the first 30 thoughts that occured to me.

;^ )

53 posted on 04/07/2005 5:36:24 PM PDT by itsamelman (“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
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To: Hatteras
Oh, this is not an Ann Coulter thread?....

No. The word is "hottie", not "scrawny".

54 posted on 04/07/2005 5:38:08 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: billorites

I am still hoping we can talk Condi Rice into running.


55 posted on 04/07/2005 5:49:08 PM PDT by RJL
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To: WillRain; billorites

Damn, I figured they must not be fully posted on the web when I couldn't google it quickly...and I was reacting to the limited info I could find. You are correct--my post was wrong about Barbour's numerical win. I should have listened to my instincts, thought to simply ignore googling and type in the full www.surveysaintlouis.com (in my defense, I did try www.surveystlouis.com).

However, I'm not wrong about Barbour pushing his contacts to make noise for him. Or how USN&WR is all about pushing Zuckerman's favorite pig. In taking a look at this poll, now that I CAN find the numbers, I also have concerns that I would with any internet poll--easily fixed. I thought this was a real poll, where the candidates had been really head-to-head polled all the way up the 64, based on the response in the papers. Silly me, forgetting that the media will do anything to stir up a horserace.

I'm not one of those reacting on the basis of superficial crap, however. I'd consider voting for Haley, though I don't think his personal platform is all that likely to be compatible with my politics. I am gonna say that his looks will work against him, because there is no question in my mind that looks have become a pathetic part of the American political scene. How else would that dumbass lawyer get on the Kerry ticket (and I don't mean Kerry)?

But as to the comment that "The problem with the Bill Frists and George Allens of the world, for all their proper policy, is they are plain, drab, vanilla, cookie cutter politicians," I don't find Haley all that distinctive. I'm not sure who I'm choosing yet, but don't think it'll be on the basis of personality or looks anyway.


56 posted on 04/07/2005 6:19:29 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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To: itsamelman; Corin Stormhands
Oh, I dunno. Haley's kind of cute, too, in a retro-50s kind of way.

LOL.

57 posted on 04/07/2005 6:28:33 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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To: CyberAnt
He was a real trouble maker when he headed the RNC. I wasn't involved in politics at the time - but I remember the media was treating Haley worse than they're now treating DeLay.

Hello ... Media Heat is

Indicator #1 he was doing a great job

(and btw, the real reason DeLay is getting the heat he gets) Haley Barbour was the best RNC head in the past 15 years. Most of the recent ones are forgettable, not convincing spokesmen, and not great political strategists. Haley was and is all of the above.
58 posted on 04/07/2005 7:16:25 PM PDT by WOSG (Liberating Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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To: wardaddy
Texas is just Baja Oklahoma.
59 posted on 04/07/2005 7:34:31 PM PDT by A Jovial Cad ("I had no shoes and I complained, until I saw a man who had no feet.")
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To: WOSG

I agree .. Reagan used to say, "if you haven't made somebody mad today, then you're not doing your job."

So I guess Haley was doing his job.

I always liked him .. but that southern accent will drive the NE liberals wild!! LOL


60 posted on 04/07/2005 7:38:48 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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