Posted on 04/05/2005 10:50:57 AM PDT by Sammy sam
"Communes and kibbutzes can work on a small scale because 1) it becomes progressively more difficult to find a common vision and purpose as the size of the community grows, 2) participation in the collective is completely voluntary, and 3) people have the right and ability to leave if the collective no longer shares their goals."
No wonder the kibbutz system is dying in Israel. Most of them have turned capitalist -- for the very reasons above.
Go ahead, sammy sam, go to Cuba, a communist 'paradise'. Spend a month there. A week. Not as some 'guest' of the government, like Sean Penn flying to Iraq to 'visit' troops. No, as the Cubans live, eaking out a living, told where to work, if there is work, where to live, how to live, jailed for independent thought (Oh, maybe there's the problem!). You will be on a raft full of people longing to free themselves from the diseased grip of a failed system and hopeful of reaching the shores of America for a chance at freedom.
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YOU are an idiot!
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I believe that Darksheare took the keywords from the Undead Thread, and I took the keywords form the second undead thread. Looks like we're set.
I'd say so!
Wow... Where to start here?
This loser simply doesn't have any concept of human nature, or the nature of work. Or maybe he's simply bought in to the "Star Trek" line of the future.
He says that communism won't be like the Soviet Union. Or any other implementation of communism, like North Korea, Cuba, China, etc... Sure, let's ignore every historical incident of communism. We've got yet another example of the leftists' mantra, "The right people simply haven't been in charge... Like me!" Isn't doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting a different outcome each time an example of the definition of insanity?
I especially loved the part about not having to work... Hey Sammy Sam... What are you going to be eating? Are you just going to live off the land? You do know that you need to plant crops to do so, right? Do you know that you'll need a fair amount of crops to support yourself, right? Oh, and are you going to make all the "city folks" move out to the country to grow their own food too? It's been done at least once before you know... Pohl Pot did it in Cambodia.
And your inclusion of Linux in the diatribe you posted shows a complete lack of understanding as to what Linux is all about... It's done mostly by "enthusiasts," who program it for the love of what they do. They're volunteers. They do it in their spare time, because they love it. But what you propose is making people do what you think that they should be doing, and I can guarentee that if you were to make volunteer Linus programmers do the work, the quality and quantity would suffer. And you make them slaves.
Just like communism.
Mark
I've had a real life minor experience with socialism once, back in college. At the time, I was living in a fraternity house, and the "house parents" said, "look, you've got all 10 people living here, you've got 10 cartons of milk in the refridgerators, you've to 10 loaves of bread, cartons of eggs, 10 sets of condiments, etc... Why not combine resources, and we'll just share. Think about how much money everyone will save, and how we'll be able to have meals together, and life will be good..." Anyway, we all agreed to give it a try, and it lasted exactly two weeks. First off, we weren't saving any money. Secondly, the "house parents" were buying cheap stuff (like house brand ketsup, not the real thing, Heinz), and didn't have anywhere near as much as we expected. We all suspected these "house parents" of pocketing more than a little of the money. There were shortages of pretty much everything, and they would up with a full scale rebellion on their hands. Like I said, it lasted all of two weeks.
I read somewhere here on FR that socialism is simply the equal distribution of misery.
Mark
Cool!!! Where do I get one of these "weapons of transparency?" How wonderful, being able to tell the truth, all the time, with no repercussions!
Being able to say to your wife, "Yes, that outfit does make your ass look HUGH," and not have to spend the next week sleeping on the couch!
Mark
Thank you. It's good to see a new generation inspired by the classics.
Because it can only work if everyone buys into their plan completely. If certain people don't want to participate, they "rock the boat." And that simply can't be allowed.
Everyone must be made to volunteer to the cause. Those who don't do so willingly will be compelled to do so, or will be eliminated.
Mark
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