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To: TheDon; CHARLITE

>>"Unfortunately, every state in the Union has laws on the books to allow euthanasia. Terri has simply awoken us to this fact, and is a call to arms to get the laws changed to make euthanasia illegal.

>>"Terri is not America's tipping point. Roe v Wade was America's tipping point. Terri's killing, and others like her, are along the down slope."<<

This comment seems to raise the bar on the article. The article's title says, "(America's moral tipping point-Terri's judicial murder)." This parenthetical appendage is apparently an editorial addition composed by CHARLITE. It is not unwarranted. But it does not go far enough.

Your comment, TheDon, goes farther, raising the bar to the larger issue of legalized abortion: "[Terri's judicial murder] is not America's tipping point. Roe v Wade was America's tipping point. Terri's killing, and others like her, are along the down slope."

I would go even farther, however.

It is not a matter of coincidence that Terri's case came up just before the imminent death of Pope John Paul II has come up. Nor is it a matter of mere coincidence that the Holy Father's death is lingering for days now.

Nor is it a mere matter of coincidence that the Vicar of Christ on earth left the hospital and returned to the Vatican appartment just as the news of Terri's death spread worldwide and the Pope's health took a mysterious turn for the worst that nobody in Rome nor in the media has been able nor even willing to explain or address.

God works in mysterious ways.

How could all these things be working together like clockwork?

The moral ground of the "tipping point of America" hinges on the practice of contraception. According to the encyclical of Pope Paul VI, Humanae Vitae, once a nation embraces the practice of legalized contraception, they have entered the slippery slope toward legalized abortion, legalized euthanasia, legalized mercy killing, and all manner of deviance.

Some other examples include, but are not limited to, national requirement to participate in ritual satanic child sacrifice and human killing for entertainment, wherein anyone who refuses to participate actively would be commiting a capital crime punishable by becoming eligible to become one of the future victims of human sacrifice.

No, the moral turning point of America is the practice of legalized contraception. This proposition (in Humanae Vitae, arguably Pope Paul VI' only great achievement) was the reason why so many people at the time raised voices of defiance against Humanae Vitae. It is the reason that Pope Paul VI was said to have been hesitant to publish it as it was written, but it had been reportedly shown to Saint Padre Pio, who had had a mere year to live, and the good Padre had told the Pope to publish it without revision.

Some confused Catholics today think that nobody should tell the Pope what to do. But here is a curious exception: the Pope asked for St. Pio's advice, and he gave it to him, and the Pope followed his advice. If he had not done so, today we would not have this clear moral principle to guide us. As it is it will garner disagreement and conflict, but without the encyclical, what I am writing would be more difficult to defend.

Padre Pio has made my typing here nearly effortless! St. Padre Pio, ora pro nobis! (Note: new tag line!)

If Pope Paul had not taken the advice of St. Pio, today we would not be able to look at Terri's tragic story and JPII's physical demise in light of the higher moral ground to which I am referring so effortlessly. JPII's "slipping in and out of consciousness but not in a coma, vital organs shutting down," and the curious spectacle of the media scrambling for additional news stories to dredge up while the world is obviously hungry for more "updates on the condition of the Pope" are merely pieces in the puzzle. All the pieces fit perfectly to make the larger picture for those who have eyes to see.

Let the reader understand.

This is not changing the topic of this thread. It is the same topic, although perhaps not the same topic that was intended by CHARLITE. Nor, I would point out, was the topic of "America's moral tipping point" the intended topic of Jan A. Larson.

"America's moral tipping point" is the topic of this thread, and legalized contraception, not Terri's judicial murder, is America's moral tipping point.

Terri's judicial murder and Roe vs. Wade were both along the slippery slope from America's tipping point, legalized contraception.

Substance abuse would seem to be another thread. The control of pharmaceutical medication by the FDA and the medical/pharmacy industry would seem to be another thread. But CONTRACEPTION IS SUBSTANCE ABUSE.

Am I saying that everyone should be required to have a prescription to get a condom? No, I'm saying that condoms should not be commercially available.

"Dream on," you say? "What a whack-o," you say? "Get lost," you say? Isn't this "FreeRepublic?" Don't I have a right to freedom of speech here? Am I inciting a riot?

These are not fighting words. These are words of peace.

I don't suppose there is any chance of a free market stopping the production of condoms and other so-called contraceptive devices while there is still a demand for them. What will be necessary is a worldwide popular loss of intent for the purchase of such implements of moral destruction. And such a change in the hearts of men can only come from divine intervention. While I do believe that such intervention is soon to come to the world, that IS another thread.

All the pieces fit perfectly to make the larger picture for those who have eyes to see.

Let the reader understand.

This is not changing the topic of this thread.

St. Padre Pio, pray for Terri Schindler (Schiavo), and pray for Pope John Paul II.

Kyrie eleison.


10 posted on 04/02/2005 7:02:22 AM PST by donbosco74 (Sancte Padre Pio, ora pro nobis, nunc et in hora mortis nostrae, Amen.)
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To: donbosco74

Said well.


11 posted on 04/02/2005 8:31:50 AM PST by freecopper01
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To: donbosco74
No, the moral turning point of America is the practice of legalized contraception.

You have a point. Some forms of contraception do enter the field of abortion, in that they do not allow the fertilized egg to become implanted. And the pill does this. If you believe that human life begins at conception, then it is not hard to see this form of contraception is abortion.

Once you get into the realm of contraception that involves prevention of conception, i.e. prevention of fetilization, you are on different moral ground. A life is not being killed at that point.

12 posted on 04/02/2005 8:59:55 AM PST by TheDon (Euthanasia is an atrocity.)
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