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To: Awestruck
US had to give something to Pakistan in exchange of participation for the war against Terrorism in the region even that was something very limited. In fact, what has India provided to the US for the war against Afghanistan and Iraq? Meanwhile, US is giving more options to India with F-16s, F-18E/Fs and a lip service to suggesting to make India another Super Power.
7 posted on 03/31/2005 2:58:20 AM PST by Wiz
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To: Wiz

In a way I would not be so dumb as Rice et al to put on my own head responsibility for arming terror states like Paki. I would tend to India for cultural reasons and anti terror reasons...But!

India is a Soviet/Russia client state and would not support the US in Iraq. Also, whassup with caving in to Pakistan after the parliament massacre? That is on India's head... the fear of nuking Pakistan, not on the US'


18 posted on 03/31/2005 3:17:36 AM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: Wiz; Jeff Head

Those videos that you see on CNN, etc. where the taliban is seen jumping through hoops, etc. were all courtesy of the Indian intel agencies. The first country to offer the US assistance right after 9/11 was India. India does not need F-18s to strike Pakistan. Pakistan needs F-16s to drop nukes in India. Do you get it? Do you understand the gravity of this blunder by Bush and Condi? Watch for a India-China axis by the time Bush is out of office.


22 posted on 03/31/2005 3:29:10 AM PST by USMMA_83 (Islam is a Death Cult...err...so are US Liberals)
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To: Wiz; Awestruck

"In fact, what has India provided to the US for the war against Afghanistan and Iraq? "

India (you now conveniently forget in the light of new found friendship with Pakistan) was the first country to declare "unconditional" support in you war in Afganistan. Your country chose Pakistan. And thereafter supporting your country in Iraq was out of question.

"US is giving more options to India with F-16s, F-18E/Fs and a lip service to suggesting to make India another Super Power."

Everybody in India takes this "US wanting to make India a superpower" thing with buckets of salt. I seriously doubt it could be politically wise for the government to buy F-16s after all this fiasco.


24 posted on 03/31/2005 3:33:03 AM PST by Gengis Khan ("There is no glory in incomplete action." -- Gengis Khan)
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To: Wiz
In fact, what has India provided to the US for the war against Afghanistan and Iraq?
 
Here's your answer........
 
Dr Rice expressed her government's concern on the India-Iran gas pipeline. She said US Ambassador to India David Mulford had already conveyed US reservations to the Indian government.
 
By supplying Iran with the revenue this pipeline will undoubtedly produce, they are aiding and abetting Iran's conquest for nuclear weapons. If India would like to benefit from American technology perhaps it should stop aiding one of the "Axis of Evil" countries. Anyone who believes Iran is not a threat to Israel's existence is a fool. Without this revenue the Iranians would likely be more receptive to economic decisions in the EU and from the current administration.
 
It is quite apparent India is progressing as a world power all by their little lonesome. They are getting cozy with Iran in order to supply the Chinese with the oil they so desperately need. Does this look like they have American interests at heart? Hardly! China is emerging to be a major player in the world market and India wants their piece of that pie. They are in a position to better play both sides than anyone else in the world at this time, and sure look to be doing just that. Besides they are getting a more advanced fighter. Call the waaaaambulance!
 
As for Pakistan the number of F16's headed their way is not going to improve their offense in the least. It will however improve their defensive capabilities, as all nations are entitled. Pakistan, with all of it's faults has been a major player in our attempts to rid the world of Bin Laden's followers. We could not have accomplished this without their support. They certainly deserve something for their efforts. By feeding a few carrots to this ally we will reap greater benefits in the future. India on the other hand appears arrogant when it pertains to American security yet will get our more advanced fighter.
 
 

50 posted on 03/31/2005 5:16:51 AM PST by Allosaurs_r_us (Idaho Carnivores for Conservatism)
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To: Wiz; Awestruck
In fact, what has India provided to the US for the war against Afghanistan and Iraq

Let's see -- the Indians were the first to offer bases to hit Afghanistan after 9/11. The moment the Pakis heard about this, they HAD to offer bases or else they knew that they would be included in the target the angry eagle (the US) had set.
57 posted on 03/31/2005 5:36:12 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Wiz
"US had to give something to Pakistan in exchange of participation for the war against Terrorism in the region "

No we didn't. Pakistani intelligence set up and supported the Taliban. They have sold Nukes to Libya. Their courts sentence Christians to death for blaspheme and allow honor killings with no punishment for the perpetrators. Their government is corrupt and two faced even by middle Eastern standards.

We don't owe them anything. They owe us. India is the only rational ally we have in the area and we pay them back by slapping them in the face. The US administration is behaving dishonorably and there is no excuse.
139 posted on 03/31/2005 9:41:10 AM PST by monday
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