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[IL] Agents arrest 10 people, seize [50 machine] guns [& 115 improvised explosive devices]
Post-Dispatch ^ | 3-29-05 | Michael Shaw

Posted on 03/30/2005 7:37:02 AM PST by OXENinFLA

Federal agents arrested 10 people Tuesday and seized more than 50 machine guns and seven hand grenades in what authorities described as the largest weapon seizure in Southern Illinois.

Most of those arrested are from the Alton-Godfrey area. Police continued to look for one man accused under indictments made public Tuesday.

"These are not sporting guns," said Glenn N. Anderson, of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, at a news conference in Fairview Heights. He said the confiscated weapons' only purpose is "to kill." The charges range from blowing up mailboxes to "manufacturing" machine guns by altering existing weapons.

He declined to say what prompted the investigation, which began in mid-January.

He noted that agents discovered racist literature while searching property of one of the accused, Randall Brown, 53, of Godfrey.

Agents found a poster of Adolf Hitler with the caption "When I come back, no more Mr. Nice Guy" and fliers from the National Alliance, a white supremacist group.

Some targets on Brown's property were allegedly given "blackfaces."

Brown is charged with engaging in a business as a manufacturer of firearms, possessing machine guns and related charges.

Anderson said the seized machine guns include AK-47s, Uzis, Thompson submachine guns, and the old belt-fed weapons, such as German World War II-era guns.

They were found in "multiple locations," from basements to storage areas, Tenpas said. Agents also seized silencers claimed to be illegal.

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(Excerpt) Read more at stltoday.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; govwatch; nazis; whitesupremacists
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Now that I'd consider an "arsenal".

I got the 115 # here. it's a shorter story w/ less detail.

1 posted on 03/30/2005 7:37:03 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...

BANG PING.....


2 posted on 03/30/2005 7:37:44 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

And this will be painted by Blago and Daley as a fine reason to take away handguns from peaceful folks.


3 posted on 03/30/2005 7:39:57 AM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: Sender
Yeah, notice the ABC story goes out of its' way to not mention they were white supremacists.
4 posted on 03/30/2005 7:41:53 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

""These are not sporting guns," said Glenn N. Anderson, of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, at a news conference in Fairview Heights. He said the confiscated weapons' only purpose is "to kill.""

Ummm, even a sporting gun's purpose is to kill. Or does he think it's sporting to just wound animals?


5 posted on 03/30/2005 7:42:31 AM PST by Moral Hazard (I'm an atheist gamer. I don't believe in God Mode.)
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To: OXENinFLA
Heck the state of illinoiz doesnt even allow federally registered machine guns. And its one of the few states left that doesnt have CCW. And the chicago is a hot spot for murder rates...
6 posted on 03/30/2005 7:45:02 AM PST by aspiring.hillbilly
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To: OXENinFLA
" ... He said the confiscated weapons' only purpose is "to kill."

What?

How reprehensible!

The ones I have are never for killing. One is for airconditioning. Another is for ventilation. And the rest are for starting horse and auto races.

Some people!



7 posted on 03/30/2005 7:45:11 AM PST by G.Mason (If you get upset that I ignore you please feel free to contact the management)
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Glenn Anderson of the Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives says Southern Illinois residents can rest much easier knowing the weapons are no longer a threat.

Yup. See it's the WEAPONS that are the threat, not the people.

8 posted on 03/30/2005 7:45:25 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Moral Hazard
I dunno. Hand grenades can come in handy while stalking an elusive covey of quail.
9 posted on 03/30/2005 7:45:25 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: OXENinFLA
"These are not sporting guns,"

The Second Amendment grants us the right to arms for sporting purposes only. NOT! Yes, I'll admit, I believe we should be able to own any firearm we choose. Speaking of Government, Patrick Henry stated, "if you have no guns and you don't like their imposed tyranny, what will you do, just tell them?

10 posted on 03/30/2005 7:46:22 AM PST by drypowder
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To: G.Mason
"I hate Illinois Nazis"


11 posted on 03/30/2005 7:47:36 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Moral Hazard

My copy of the Constitution and Bill of rights must be wrong. In my copy of the first amendment, it doesn't say we have the right to keep and bear sporting arms. My copy just says arms.

I'm no sympathizer or fellow traveller with these folks, but they always come for the 'undesireables' first.


12 posted on 03/30/2005 7:48:22 AM PST by blanknoone (Steyn: "The Dems are all exit and no strategy")
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To: OXENinFLA

LOL!

I always forget about that scene in The Blues Brothers.


13 posted on 03/30/2005 7:48:56 AM PST by MplsSteve
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To: blanknoone

First?


14 posted on 03/30/2005 7:49:05 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I dunno. Hand grenades can come in handy while stalking an elusive covey of quail.

Frag or concussive? I hate pulling out shrapnel when I am eating quail.

15 posted on 03/30/2005 7:50:05 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: OXENinFLA

Ooops. I can never keep straight which of my constitutionally guaranteed rights is being trampled. :-) Sorry about that.


16 posted on 03/30/2005 7:51:50 AM PST by blanknoone (Steyn: "The Dems are all exit and no strategy")
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To: blanknoone

lol!

};O)


17 posted on 03/30/2005 7:52:46 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA
The picture is unclear to me.

What are they doing, tossing the whackers off the bridge in shallow water? ;)

18 posted on 03/30/2005 7:53:18 AM PST by G.Mason (If you get upset that I ignore you please feel free to contact the management)
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To: OXENinFLA
Some targets on Brown's property were allegedly given "blackfaces."

Oh... the HORROR.

I see a new "hate crime" law coming down the pike, and possibly, a total BAN on targets made up depicting minorities as criminals with guns (of course, it's O.K. to hang and/or burn a white President in effigy, etc.).

As if there is an unwritten rule that life-like humanoid targets can NEVER be anything other than white men (and sometimes white women).

"Life-like" SHOULD reflect the real life fact that a large percentage of violent crime is committed by young black inner-city youths, who are often gang-bangers.

But no, even though this is true, we can't have that because it might hurt someone's feelings.

PC is alive and well.

19 posted on 03/30/2005 7:53:18 AM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: OXENinFLA

Keep an eye on this. Sometime down the road we'll see if the hoopla is as reported.

There could in fact be a legitimate reason for this. But that reason won't see the light of day.

I'll wait for more info before passing judgement.

I don't trust the extremists. But I trust the ATF even less.


20 posted on 03/30/2005 7:53:53 AM PST by Al Gator (Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!)
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