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To: Conservative_Rob

let me point this out:

I don't have a problem with anyone going and taking water or whatever to Terri and getting arrested. You want to do that with your churchs name on your back, fine. but don't go saying Jesus told you to, or it's righteous, or that you are doing God's work....or whatever.

Jesus of Nazareth never, ever violated a law. Ever. In fact, He even stated he came to fulfill the law. Never did he break a law in performing a miracle. He never did. "Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's." What does that mean if Caesar says "no water for Terri"?


137 posted on 03/30/2005 9:47:36 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

So, if your interpretation of Romans 13 is correct, then Stalin and Mao starving/murdering 47 million people was doing the Lord's work.

The problem with the letters written to the Churches (which is what the New Testament is primarily made of) is that they are terribly contradictory.

It is my view that the Word of God is flawless. It is also my view that the Bible was actually written/translated by man. And we are terribly flawed.


139 posted on 03/30/2005 10:05:30 AM PST by ex 98C MI Dude (Our legal system is in a PVS. Time to remove it from the public feeding trough.)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Jesus of Nazareth never, ever violated a law.

Jesus healed others on the sabbath -law breaking activity.

141 posted on 03/30/2005 10:31:56 AM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

"Jesus of Nazareth never, ever violated a law. Ever. In fact, He even stated he came to fulfill the law."

I assume you are referring to the Roman laws imposed on Judea...a conquered Roman colony.

Questions...

What is our (United Staet of America) laws, legal system, whatever you call it...based on, or derived from...in your view?

How does our legal system differ from the Roman legal system in the time of Christ?


144 posted on 03/30/2005 10:48:03 AM PST by Dat Mon (will work for clever tagline)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
I'm sorry to disagree with you, but if you were to study the Gospels in depth you would see that Jesus broke the law as established in the Old Testament on numerous occations. In fact, that was one of the charges against him when he was arrested.

Jesus was a proponet of observing the "spirit" of the law not the literal interpretation of the law. If someone would become sick on the Sabbath it was "against the law" for a doctor to perform an examination (that would constitute "work") - Jesus healed the sick and gave sight to the blind on the Sabbath.

You may say that that was not the civil law - well, for a Jew, the Laws of Moses were higher than the civil law. If a Roman judge had ordered some poor disabled woman to die of starvation while Roman guards arrested anyone who attempted to offer assistance I can say with certainty that Jesus would have interviened when the situation would have been brought to his attention.

You demean the motives of those who have been arrested attemping to give water to Terri. Please, tell me how you know for certainty that they are not directed by Jesus to bring water to a poor defenceless woman who is being tortured by the state?

Then he called the crowd to him along with his disciples and said: “If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me and for the gospel will save it. What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, yet forfeit his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul? If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels.” Mark 8:34-38

160 posted on 03/30/2005 3:06:01 PM PST by Conservative_Rob
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