Here is another article, that I found rather amusing.
Maybe he had one of those newfangled Belgian pistols that have gotten such bad press. I wonder if he actually had the kevlar piercing ammo, or that was just a figment of the bad press that the pistol has gotten. Maybe the police were more upset about which weapon he had than the fact that he didn't have it in plain sight, and that's why (allegedly) telling them about it wasn't good enough.
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Translation "We are going after this man with a vengence and we will not rest until he is dead or in prison for life. how dare this peon try to muscle in on our territory and protect himself. if this catches on there will not be aneed for as many police to protect the peons and some of us will lose our jobs and have to work for a living."
There now the article is accurate
5.7mm bump. Bet he didn't have AP ammo.
Date updated: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 Ohio's Concealed Carry Law makes it Mandatory to notify a police officer that you are carrying a concealed handgun and have a license to do so.
This law will apply to you even if you are merely a passenger in a motor vehicle. The officer may or may not ask you to produce your license and may or may not ask to take possession of your firearm for the duration of the traffic stop. The law specifically prohibits the officer from keeping your firearm if you are released.
Vital: During a traffic stop you should never make any movement that could be considered reaching for or touching your firearm. Besides the common sense reasons, if you are charged with touching your firearm at any time during a traffic stop the charges are a felony.
Sec. 2923.126.
(A) If a licensee is the driver or an occupant of a motor vehicle that is stopped as the result of a traffic stop or a stop for another law enforcement purpose and if the licensee is transporting or has a loaded handgun in the motor vehicle at that time, the licensee shall promptly inform any law enforcement officer who approaches the vehicle while stopped that the licensee has been issued a license or temporary emergency license to carry a concealed handgun and that the licensee currently possesses or has a loaded handgun; the licensee shall comply with lawful orders of a law enforcement officer given while the motor vehicle is stopped, shall remain in the motor vehicle while stopped, and shall keep the licensee's hands in plain sight while any law enforcement officer begins approaching the licensee while stopped and before the officer leaves, unless directed otherwise by a law enforcement officer; and the licensee shall not knowingly remove, attempt to remove, grasp, or hold the loaded handgun or knowingly have contact with the loaded handgun by touching it with the licensee's hands or fingers, in any manner in violation of division (E) of section 2923.16 of the Revised Code, while any law enforcement officer begins approaching the licensee while stopped and before the officer leaves. If a law enforcement officer otherwise approaches a person who has been stopped for a law enforcement purpose, if the person is a licensee, and if the licensee is carrying a concealed handgun at the time the officer approaches, the licensee shall promptly inform the officer that the licensee has been issued a license or temporary emergency license to carry a concealed handgun and that the licensee currently is carrying a concealed handgun.
Sec. 2923.126.
(A) A licensee who has been issued a license under section 2923.125 or 2923.1213 of the Revised Code may carry a concealed handgun anywhere in this state if the licensee also carries a valid license and valid identification when the licensee is in actual possession of a concealed handgun.
"Joseph said he received his permit in November and purchased the weapon and ammunition shortly thereafter in Austintown because it was something relatively new on the market and "supposed to be state-of-the-art.''
"I've never even fired it yet,'' he said. "
It's not a good idea to carry a weapon that you have never fired and that has not been thoroughly tested with your carry ammo. Since I don't beleive that armor piercing bullets such as KTW are available for sale to the general public, I doubt his ammo was of the "cop killer" variety.
I don't see the problem. If I fail to inform a law enforcement officer that I have CCL and am presently armed, in Texas, my license is automatically forfeit.
Just like it says in the 'Bill of Privileges.'
Hoolihan said police are not singling out Joseph, saying having a conceal and carry permit is a privilege much like having a driver's license.
the right to carry is not a privilege but a right that the cops should be aware of and expect all to be carrying.
nuff said.
teeman
Curious: The date of the story is Tuesday, July 30, 2002
Nearly all reasonable size semi-auto handguns are "military style". Any bullet will penetrate Kevlar. It's a question of how much Kevlar, and of course how fast the bullet is going.
You have a concealed weapons permit, so you must keep the weapon in plain site? Who writes these laws?
WTF ??? Something unique to just Ohio CHL or just an open carry rule if ya don't have a CHL ??
Pretty clearly a weapon useful to a militia, then, and protected under 'Miller'.
"he threw his license and gun permit on the top of his vehicle after he was outside the vehicle."
If, at this point, he would have just wipped out his gun I'm sure he wouldn't be going to court now.
The guy is a dimwit.
One - He's riding around with a felon
Two - He's not following the letter of the law as regards concealment in an automobile.
Three - He is carrying a weapon, upon which he is going to rely to save his life, AND HE HAS NOT EVEN FIRED IT!!!
Shooting trap with a 9 mm. That shooter must be really good, or very optimistic! lmao
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