Fox News Video - "Former Nurse Alledges That Michael Schiavo Abused Terri"

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[ryan71]

Interview of Terri's former nurse on Fox news. Go to www.foxnews.com Select POLITICS on right of page Select FOX NEWS EXCLUSIVE-"Former Nurse..."

[cripplecreek]

Unfortunately it's all hearsay. Apparently hearsay is enough to kill her but not enough to save her.

[Montfort]

What that nurse has to say about finding an insuline dose and Terri's blood sugar levels is not hearsay. What she would say about what Mike Schiavvo said might be hearsay, except that he is available to be examined about about it.

If I remember the rule of hearsay, the problem is having a witness tell us what some person who is not available to testify said.

And even then, there are lots of exception to the hearsay rule. Including the recently established exception that hearsay may be introduced to establish a disabled wife's desire to die, when her husband (with a new family) decides that he no longer wants her to live.

[-=Wing_0_Walker=-]

What no one seems to deal with is that Michael Schiavo has nothing to do with Terri Schiavo's current medical state, even if he caused that state. If he had abused her, and I think he did, it doesn't mean that her brain is in tact. A part of her brain died due to oxygen deprivation, regardless of cause. MS refuses to get a divorce because HE DOES NOT WANT TO ACCOUNT FOR THE BALANCE OF $1.2 MILLION HE WAS AWARDED FOR TERRI'S CARE! If there were a divorce, the money (at least half) would go for Terri's care.

The courts recognize "de fact" segregation. Accordingly, they should recognize de facto divorce. MS, subsequent to Terri's nightmare, has two children by different women and is engaged to marry one. In essence, he should have no say as to TS. The care of TS would then revert to the parents.

As far as TS goes, it is a terrible tragedy. Several doctors have documented, and testified that part of her bran disappeared and was replaced by spinal fluid. Accordingly, she is a vegetable. Two other people testified in court that they heard from TS at 2 different funerals that she did not want artificial means of life support. So, I do not see a problem with allowing her to die as there is no requirement by her religion to use extra ordinary means to keep her alive. There will be no cure or miracle.

That said, if "de Fact" divorce is recognized, her care goes to the parents; they will keep her alive. The matter is then their decision. I do see the judge's refusal to allow Viaticum (last communion) as interfering with Freedom of Religion.

[beyond the sea]

FoxNews.......... too little to late. FoxNews is really...... sorry to say....... just part of the problem.

Ask them to do an expose on Flight 800 or OKC! Yeh, they'll be right on that. ;-)

Tell them to examine Rev. Danforth's silly but ardent "report" on Waco.

FoxNews is just another puppet of a slightly different hue.

Brit Hume and John Gibson should retire and get away from the BULL! They're too good to be involved with the 'one world' media compliance.

[Piquaboy]

I expect charges to be filed on Michael after Terry's death. Just a hunch after seeing the brother and sister last evening and hearing their comments.

[smiley]

what did the brother and sister have to say?

[-=Wing_0_Walker=-]

PS the testimony from the two friends / relatives that heard Terri state she doesn't want artificial life support is testimony by witnesses as to what she said. If they "heard" from a third party, that would be "hearsay", i.e. rumors, if I remember correctly.

[Piquaboy]

It was more what they did not say when asked about charges being pressed for suspected abuse.

[AndyTheBear]

Apparently hearsay is enough to kill her but not enough to save her.

Yes, Florida statute has put her enemy in charge of representing her, and has been steadfastly blind to any evidence he doesn't want to bring forth. And she won't be "officially" examined by any doctor not sympathetic to her enemy/representative.

Its like being charged for murder, and gagged, while your lawyer as the real killer, works tirelessly to make sure you loose and block any evidence your family tries to present in the court.

In this long, long, long trial, Micheal got all the due process in the world. Terri got none at all.

[AndyTheBear]

Including the recently established exception...

Ann Coulter pointed out they were actually following a precedent from a much earlier case...I think it was "Fox vs Hen-house".

[Publius Maximus]

I am reminded of Jesus' last moments on the cross. His sense of desolation, of being forsaken. Even then, when he thirsted, the guards had the decency and mercy to put a sponge to his mouth.

What is happening to Terri and her parents and blood relatives, is simply barbaric.

May God have mercy on Michael "Judas" Shiavo's soul. Better for him had he never been born.

I haven't been this prayerful on Good Friday for as long as I can remember. May God bless Terri and give comfort to those who mourn for her, especially her mom and dad.

As a dad myself, my heart weeps for them.

[AaronInCarolina]

Two other people testified in court that they heard from TS at 2 different funerals that she did not want artificial means of life support.

The two other people were closely associated with Michael. One was his brother, Scott, and the other was his brother's wife, I think her name was Joan. The judge hung all of the weight of testimony on these two people, without considering the peculiar fact that this required Terri to make multiple independent statements to 3 different people from Michael's family, and no such statements to a myriad of people (parents, siblings, lifelong friends, etc.) about such personal decisions. The judge should also have considered as a conflict that Michael and his brother Scott had had this feeding tube removal procedure performed on both of their parents previously (as per Michael's TV interview, I think, with Larry King). The judge should never have placed the full weight of evidence on these 2 questionable individuals.

[ghostrider]

If you want to get sick, look at today's St. Petersburg Times. A convicted murderor's case was tossed out by the Supreme Court, because prosecutors did not share evidence with the court, that other possibilities existed. I don't have the link, but you can find it with your search function.

[Dave S]

MS refuses to get a divorce because HE DOES NOT WANT TO ACCOUNT FOR THE BALANCE OF $1.2 MILLION HE WAS AWARDED FOR TERRI'S CARE! If there were a divorce, the money (at least half) would go for Terri's care.

Do you know any of the facts about this case other than the crap that Randall Terry told you to inflame you? Terri was not awarded $1.2 million, she was awarded $750,000. Separately Michael was awarded $300,000 for the loss of relations with his wife. The $750,000 award was put into a trust overseen by the court. Michael does not and never did control the money or the trust. After eight years of care, there is something on the order of $40,000 remaining from the award. Her bills are currently running more than $80,000 per year and are being paid by Medicaid. This is all documented in the report of Guardian Ad Litem Wolfson to Jeb Bush which you can read online if you are at all interested in facts.

[AaronInCarolina]

PS the testimony from the two friends / relatives that heard Terri state she doesn't want artificial life support is testimony by witnesses as to what she said. If they "heard" from a third party, that would be "hearsay", i.e. rumors, if I remember correctly.

I think we are wasting energy on trying to determine whether the testimony was in fact hearsay. As I recall from reading the court proceedings and the FL law, the law regarding withdrawal of nutrition and hydration allows for oral statement of the patients wishes when a written directive does not exist. What the law merely states is that in that situation, there must be "Clear and Convincing" evidence of the oral statement. The problem here, IMHO, is the vagueness of that clause. It seems that if the law allows for oral statments of the wish, the only way to present that in a trial IS for hearsay type testimony unless you have a tape of some sort that recorded the statement. The law does not require specifically a taped statement. Therefore, in that context, hearsay has to be entered as evidence. Then it comes down to the judge's decision as to who to believe. This is the weakness, I think, in the original law that the law known as "Terri's Law" sougth to fix. But the FL court system basically told the legislature that it would be unconstitutional to fix the law since the court had already ruled upon the original law. It's like the court said "we like the original law, so you can't change it".

[AaronInCarolina]

Do you know any of the facts about this case other than the crap that Randall Terry told you to inflame you? Terri was not awarded $1.2 million, she was awarded $750,000. Separately Michael was awarded $300,000 for the loss of relations with his wife. The $750,000 award was put into a trust overseen by the court.

Dave, I think that you are speaking of just one of the awards that were handed down. You may not believe the sources that I give, but Terris Fight lists a timeline and shows that there were in fact 3 malpractice settlements in 1992: 1) $250,000, 2)$1.4 million, and 3) $600,000. You may believe that site or not.

Let's try to be a little less inflammatory, OK. It seems every thread devolves into ugly accusation and belittling when we are all just trying to have a reasonable discussion.

[bannie]

Scott-Peterson-with-Less-Success

[ElkGroveDan]

What no one seems to deal with is that Michael Schiavo has nothing to do with Terri Schiavo's current medical state

You don't know that, you are just toeing the official line. When the paramedics arrived back in 1990 they thought the circumstances suspicious enough to report the event as a crime. Michael (the ever-loving husband) has refused to allow any bone scans or detailed examinations of Terri.

The reason he doesn't want to get a divorce is that Terri is likely to recover some mobility with proper therapy, including speech (which her parents will give her). Michael is afraid she will sit up some day and say, that SOB tried to kill me.

My opinion, supported by a whole lot of compelling facts, is that he tried to strangle her. The only difference between him and Scott Peterson is that Schiavo didn't have a boat.

[ElkGroveDan]

The $750,000 award was put into a trust overseen by the court. Michael does not and never did control the money or the trust. After eight years of care, there is something on the order of $40,000 remaining from the award. Her bills are currently running more than $80,000 per year and are being paid by Medicaid.

And you found this out from a reputable auditor? Because I sure hope you aren't taking the world of Schiavo, Felos, Greer and the board of the hospice who are as all interconnected and related as a small town mob family. What ever happens to Terri the feds need swoop in there with a RICO investigation and break open that death-for-profit rat's nest of slimeballs. This whole thing stinks to high-hell