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So our judges deserve some criticism. But we should not be too harsh. For example, it would be wrong to suggest, as some conservatives have, that our judicial elite is systematically biased against "life." After all, they have saved the life of Christopher Simmons.

Touche

1 posted on 03/24/2005 10:36:07 PM PST by cinnathepoet
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"So our judges deserve some criticism. But we should not be too harsh. For example, it would be wrong to suggest, as some conservatives have, that our judicial elite is systematically biased against "life." After all, they have saved the life of Christopher Simmons."

Wee willie kristol at it again pointing his fingers in 'some conservatives' eyes. Talk about preverison.


2 posted on 03/24/2005 10:40:16 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: cinnathepoet

that next to last paragraph is outstanding


3 posted on 03/24/2005 10:41:36 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1366853/)
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Black-robed fools are same as the criminals who committed the crime.


7 posted on 03/24/2005 10:46:27 PM PST by RasterMaster (Saddam's family were WMD's - He's behind bars & his sons are DEAD!)
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"And the president and Congress should lead a serious national debate on the distinction between judicial independence and judicial arrogance, and on the difference between judicial review and judicial supremacy."

Well written piece IMO. The phrase above summed it up for me Arrogance and supremacy (Elitism). They are going to dictate to the unwashed masses the appropriate mode of action. A trait not limited to Judges - Could describe some of our elected leaders as well.

8 posted on 03/24/2005 10:49:24 PM PST by drt1
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To: thompsonsjkc; odoso; animoveritas; St. Johann Tetzel; DaveTesla; mercygrace; ...

Moral Absolutes Ping.

A good, good take on the black robed Nazgul who are our masters.

I don't always love Bill Kristol, but I really like this article. Terri's revolution.

May God bless her soul.

Let me know if anyone wants (back)on/off this pinglist.


10 posted on 03/24/2005 10:55:17 PM PST by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it)
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Sarcastic---and inspiring at the same time. A call to action.

Thanks, cinna, for posting this.


12 posted on 03/24/2005 10:58:43 PM PST by unfortunately a bluestater
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That is the complete sickness of our culture of death. We value a vicious murderer more than a poor woman who has not hurt anyone but herself. They love drug addicts, criminals, and sexual deviants. The Nazi culture of death had an evil but coherent strategy of strengthening their society by eliminating what it viewed as its weak links. Our culture of death just seems to like death for its own sake.


19 posted on 03/24/2005 11:05:34 PM PST by Honestfreedom
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Bravo, William Kristol.


20 posted on 03/24/2005 11:05:52 PM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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Our judges, like all judges in totalitarian states, believe in rule of their law. Not the rule of law, which comes from the people.

Hitler had "judges" and they put down "law". But it wasn't "rule of law". The rule of law is law is made by free people and can be changed as understanding deepens. It's not the rules of eliets for eliets.

I am sickened that our judges have fallen into the elitist crap of inferior cultures. The "rule of judges" is beneath us. Have they no shame?

So our judges deserve some criticism. But we should not be too harsh. For example, it would be wrong to suggest, as some conservatives have, that our judicial elite is systematically biased against "life." After all, they have saved the life of Christopher Simmons. It would be wrong to argue, as some critics have, that our judges systematically give too much weight to the husband's wishes in situations like Terri Schiavo's. After all, our judges have for three decades given husbands (or fathers) no standing at all to participate in the decision whether to kill their unborn children. It would be wrong to claim that our judges don't take seriously legislation passed by the elected representatives of the people. After all, our judges are committed to upholding the "rule of law"--though not, perhaps, the rule of actual laws passed by actual lawmakers. And it would be wrong to accuse our judges of being heartless. After all, Judges Carnes and Hull of the 11th U.S. Circuit told us, "We all have our own family, our own loved ones, and our own children."

41 posted on 03/25/2005 1:36:50 AM PST by GOPJ (Liberals haven't had a new idea in 40 years.)
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while i don't always agree with Bill Kristol and often do not, every now and then he has an opinion that moves me to give him just one more chance...


42 posted on 03/25/2005 1:57:01 AM PST by latina4dubya
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The check and balance already exists: the independent executive.
But almost everyone, including Hugh Hewitt, thinks the executive police power is subordinate to judges.
It is not.


43 posted on 03/25/2005 2:11:01 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: cinnathepoet; Freee-dame

Terrific article!


45 posted on 03/25/2005 5:23:17 AM PST by maica (Ask a Deathocrat: "When did you decide to support death always - except for condemned criminals?")
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I wasn't sure how Bill Kristol was going to come down on this given we've had our disagreements in past. Glad to see this piece. Well done, Mr. Kristol.


46 posted on 03/25/2005 5:30:45 AM PST by Soul Seeker
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"...the evolving standards of decency that mark a maturing society".

I agree with the court that standards have "evloved". Also that we are a "maturing society".

Couldn't one take that very same premise and point out that "juveniles" are not getting LESS mature, they are maturing at an earlier age. We've seen the studies for years. Menses cycles coming earlier, younger and younger girls having babies, sexualized TV and music, etc. In fact, the very same liberals say a teen aged girl is "mature" enough to decide on her own abortion.

This is the kind of convoluted thinking one gets when "maturing" societies with "evolving standards" stop relying on their constitution and turn instead to judges to tell them what's "right".

48 posted on 03/25/2005 6:07:48 AM PST by Timeout (Dean & the Bike Path Left: aging anti-warriors who use "summer" as a verb~~Jonah)
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Let the revolution begin.

Go here for similar ideas from Wretchard.

http://www.wretchard.com/blogs/the_belmont_club/default.aspx

55 posted on 03/26/2005 5:41:32 AM PST by aculeus (Ceci n'est pas une tag line.)
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