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Minnesota School Massacre Latest Example of the Human Toll of America's Love Affair with Guns
VPC ^ | 3-22-05 | Marty Langley

Posted on 03/22/2005 10:53:46 AM PST by Dan from Michigan

Minnesota School Massacre Latest Example of the Human Toll of America's Love Affair with Guns

Shooter's Willingness to Commit Suicide Demonstrates Futility of Deterrence, Restricting Access to Firearms is the Only Way to Prevent Future Tragedies

Washington, D.C.—Yesterday's mass shooting at a Minnesota high school in which a lone shooter killed nine and wounded more than a dozen before taking his own life was the worst school shooting since the 1999 massacre at Columbine High School, where two students killed 13 and wounded another 23 before taking their own lives.

In the wake of this most recent shooting, Kristen Rand, legislative director for the Violence Policy Center (VPC) states, "America must face the fact that we have a love affair with guns that exacts a tremendous and unacceptable cost in human lives lost. Mass shootings like that at Red Lake High School are the future for America's children until policymakers decide it's time to enact real gun control. Other countries have found the solution to mass shootings, and it consists of severe restrictions on the availability of specific classes of firearms, such as handguns and assault weapons."

Noting that, as was the case at Columbine, the Minnesota high school shooter was prepared to die in order to perpetrate the shooting, Rand adds, "There is simply no way the criminal justice system or a series of security measures—such as the guard and metal detectors present at Red Lake High School—can prevent a shooter determined to kill and willing to die."

The shooting at Red Lake High School is the latest mass murder-suicide to occur in the United States and follows, by less than two weeks, a murder-suicide at a Wisconsin hotel that resulted in eight dead. These shootings, like the vast majority of such incidents, were perpetrated with a gun. A study conducted by the VPC in 2002 found that guns were used in 95 percent of all murder-suicides and estimated that at least 1,300 lives are lost each year to murder-suicide. (For a copy of the study, American Roulette: The Untold Story of Murder-Suicide in the United States, as well as gun violence information for Minnesota, please see www.vpc.org).


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
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1 posted on 03/22/2005 10:53:47 AM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: Dan from Michigan

I thought they said that this kid got the guns from his grandfather, who was a cop? Are they proposing that we take the guns away from cops now?


2 posted on 03/22/2005 10:55:28 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Dan from Michigan
Noting that, as was the case at Columbine, the Minnesota high school shooter was prepared to die in order to perpetrate the shooting, Rand adds, "There is simply no way the criminal justice system or a series of security measures—such as the guard and metal detectors present at Red Lake High School—can prevent a shooter determined to kill and willing to die."

Which is logical enough. However, if laws and security measures failed to prevent guns from being smuggled into a school, how are other laws going to prevent the same shooter from illegally obtaining guns?

For some strange reason, the folks at VPC never get around to answering that logical follow-up question.

3 posted on 03/22/2005 10:56:47 AM PST by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: Brilliant

It's not that that their worried about. It's America's "love affair" with guns. It's our "gun" mentality that makes us so violent. As opposed to those peaceful utopia's in socialist Europe.


4 posted on 03/22/2005 10:58:57 AM PST by marsh_of_mists
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To: Dan from Michigan
"There is simply no way the criminal justice system or a series of security measures—such as the guard and metal detectors present at Red Lake High School—can prevent a shooter determined to kill and willing to die."

She's right about that. Too bad kids can't carry firearms to school, maybe somebody could've shot back. It could be equally said, too, that ...

"There is simply no way more laws can prevent crimes when people are willing to break the law to commit crimes."

5 posted on 03/22/2005 10:59:00 AM PST by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: Dan from Michigan
These shootings, like the vast majority of such incidents, were perpetrated with a gun.

As opposed to what?

6 posted on 03/22/2005 11:01:06 AM PST by scott7278 ("Please disperse...there is nothing to see here.")
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To: Dan from Michigan

Thanks for posting this. I just fired off a little "love letter" to them!


7 posted on 03/22/2005 11:01:11 AM PST by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: Dan from Michigan

This may sound crazy, but I wonder how many would have died if this kid had walked into this school of 300 kids where all of them were armed.


8 posted on 03/22/2005 11:01:16 AM PST by Navydog
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To: Dan from Michigan
hey, look at it this way , if the security and the teachers
all carried guns they could have taken out the perp right away. the problem is not too many guns , it's too few and not in the right hands....
9 posted on 03/22/2005 11:02:18 AM PST by injin ("sooner rather than later.")
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::These shootings, like the vast majority of such incidents, were perpetrated with a gun.::

Wow. Shootings perpetrated with a gun. Who'd have ever guessed???


Whatever. I'm glad that VPC is willing to blame guns for all our problems, instead of addressing the actual problems. Meaningless rhetoric is always a better solution, or so say these loonies.


10 posted on 03/22/2005 11:02:37 AM PST by Banach-Tarski (Get US out of the UN)
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To: scott7278

As opposed to shootings perpetrated with a gallon container of laundry soap.


11 posted on 03/22/2005 11:03:54 AM PST by niteowl77
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To: Dan from Michigan; All; IchBinEinBerliner20; LadyPilgrim

"Yesterday's mass shooting at a Minnesota high school in which a lone shooter killed nine and wounded more than a dozen before taking his own life was the worst school shooting since the 1999 massacre at Columbine High School, where two students killed 13 and wounded another 23 before taking their own lives."MY good G-D!!!!


12 posted on 03/22/2005 11:05:05 AM PST by anonymoussierra (Lux Mea Christus!!!"Totus tuus" Quo Vadis Domine?Thank you)
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To: Dan from Michigan
These shootings, like the vast majority of such incidents, were perpetrated with a gun.

The vast majority of shootings are perpetrated by guns? What were the other ones perpetrated by?

13 posted on 03/22/2005 11:05:59 AM PST by Texas Federalist (If you get in bed with the government, you'll get more than a good night's sleep." R. Reagan)
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To: cweese
I just fired off a little "love letter" to them!

They probably didn't like that.

14 posted on 03/22/2005 11:06:11 AM PST by scott7278 ("Please disperse...there is nothing to see here.")
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To: Dan from Michigan

I was actually a little shocked last night that this was the 3rd story into the news. When the Columbine shooting occured it was not only the Top Story it was the Only Story.
I expect the anti-gun news will make up loss grown tonight.


15 posted on 03/22/2005 11:07:26 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Dan from Michigan
...guns were used in 95 percent of all murder-suicides...

And 95% of all heroin addicts drank milk as children.

So?

16 posted on 03/22/2005 11:07:31 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Minnesota School Massacre Latest Example of the Human Toll of America's Love Affair with Guns

Alberta Mountie Massacre Latest Example of the Human Toll of Canada's Love Affair with Drugs.

17 posted on 03/22/2005 11:07:42 AM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: Texas Federalist
Perhaps the balance of shootings were perpetrated by fast food, the bible, or perhaps the constitution. I suppose it depends on VPC's policy any given week.
18 posted on 03/22/2005 11:08:09 AM PST by Banach-Tarski (Get US out of the UN)
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To: Dan from Michigan

And how many high-schoolers lives are lost in automobile accidents? Maybe we should ban them too.


19 posted on 03/22/2005 11:09:16 AM PST by Godzilla ( Chaos, panic, and disorder .... my work here is done.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
It's the american love affair with death that causes these massacres. It's not the guns!
20 posted on 03/22/2005 11:09:43 AM PST by MortMan (CON is the opposite of PRO. Is Congress therefore the opposite of progress?)
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