Former Sergeant (claims to have shot children) Criticizes Iraq War (at Cornell, Ithaca event)

Copyright © 2005 The Cornell Daily Sun. All rights reserved. ^ | 3/14/05 | by Nessia Sloane

[Behind Liberal Lines]

ITHACA NY--"I lied, I cheated, and I deceived," Iraq War Veteran and former staff Sergeant Jimmy Massey said Friday in Anabel Taylor Hall.

His lecture was part of his mission to reveal his own experiences as a recruitment counselor and a sergeant on the front lines of Iraq. Massey is currently touring upstate New York as a pacifist, commenting on American manipulation and treachery in the Marine Corps and in the War in Iraq.

Massey was brought to Cornell by an Ithaca organization called Conscious Alternative to Militarism (CAM), which is currently working on a movement of counter-recruitment. Its goal is "to make people informed consumers," said Grace Ritter, a member of CAM and organizer of this event.

Massey's discussion unveiled his participation in the Marine Corps' manipulation as a recruitment counselor.

"I was able to plant seeds in their minds," Massey said.

The recruitment process, Massey said, works under the assumption that it can convince young recruits that it is necessary and beneficial to join the Marines.

Assigned a list of hundreds of young men, each recruitment counselor gathers detailed information on the young men's personal lives, from their SAT scores to their eyesight. According to Massey, once a counselor convinces a person to sign up, he encourages the recruit to lie in order to pass the drug, medical and police tests.

"It's just a manipulation of the English language," Massey said.

Massey himself recruited 75 young men, one of whom even had a serious neurological disorder. Massey explained that he understood what he was doing was wrong but continued to recruit out of fear of losing his job in the Marine Corps.

As a reward for his accomplishments as a recruitment counselor, Massey was sent to the front lines of Iraq where according to Massey "the Rules of the Geneva Convention, were out the windows." He admitted to killing innocent civilians and cited a specific example in which he stormed a car of four young Iraqi men, killing three of them.

"We created the enemy," Massey said.

Massey added that a young man whose brother was just murdered will inevitably fight back. Nathan Newman, an Ithaca resident in the audience, expressed his desire for his brother, a lieutenant in the Marines, to speak out like Jimmy Massey.

"I don't know what could be more important than a person speaking out to a community about finding or re-finding their humanity," said Luke Cannon, another Ithaca resident.

Upon his discharge on Dec. 31 2003, Massey has been speaking out under the assumption that the public has the right to know the truth about military conscription and the War in Iraq.

"I will take back everything I said if [The Marine Corps] could answer one question. How is a six-year-old child with a bullet in his head a terrorist, because that is the youngest I killed," Massey said.

[Behind Liberal Lines]

Massey was sent to the front lines of Iraq where according to Massey "the Rules of the Geneva Convention, were out the windows." He admitted to killing innocent civilians and cited a specific example in which he stormed a car of four young Iraqi men, killing three of them. How is a six-year-old child with a bullet in his head a terrorist, because that is the youngest I killed," Massey said.

Okay, Freepers, it seems to me that, if we haven't already, the pajamma clad warriors who post here should be trying to find out the truth of these allegations.

Massey was brought to Cornell by an Ithaca organization called Conscious Alternative to Militarism (CAM), which is currently working on a movement of counter-recruitment....Nathan Newman, an Ithaca resident in the audience, expressed his desire for his brother, a lieutenant in the Marines, to speak out like Jimmy Massey....Luke Cannon, another Ithaca resident.

Ithaca is the City of Evil.

[Behind Liberal Lines]

City of Evil bump:

[agere_contra]

I'm having a John Kerry flashback.

[JennysCool]

--"I lied, I cheated, and I deceived," Iraq War Veteran and former staff Sergeant Jimmy Massey said Friday in Anabel Taylor Hall.

In fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan? Is this guy part of the John Kerry Lecture Series?

[CaptRon]

"I will take back everything I said if [The Marine Corps] could answer one question. How is a six-year-old child with a bullet in his head a terrorist, because that is the youngest I killed," Massey said.

And I will change my mind about you being a publicity-seeking liar if you can produce the Marine Officer who gave you the order to kill that child.

[cripplecreek]

"How is a six-year-old child with a bullet in his head a terrorist, because that is the youngest I killed,"


If true he should surrender himself for swift prosecution. Somehow I doubt he feels much concern for his fellow soldiers who kill previously wounded terrorists.

[ohioWfan]

LIAR!!!!!

[2banana]

He needs to be brought up on UCMJ for war crimes - no statue of limitations and it doesn't matter if you are out of the military. And use the words and propaganda of this John Kerry wannie-be against him...

[MisterRepublican]

"I lied, I cheated, and I deceived,"

Yes, that's exactly what the traitor is doing at this "lecture". I don't believe a word of it.

[math=power]

Innocents wind up being killed in any war. The estimates of the number of French killed in the bomings prescceding D-day are 40,000.

That being said, I'm also certain the Marines did not direct this guy to shoot a 6-year old that was minding his own business. The claim is rediculus.

What a jackass.

[Falcon4.0]

"I will take back everything I said if [The Marine Corps] could answer one question. How is a six-year-old child with a bullet in his head a terrorist, because that is the youngest I killed," Massey said."

Let's see your written orders to commit "War Crimes" PALL!
NO?!
Didn't think so.

[Piquaboy]

I see that another worm has crawled out of the Big Apple.

[Leatherneck_MT]

"I will take back everything I said if [The Marine Corps] could answer one question. How is a six-year-old child with a bullet in his head a terrorist, because that is the youngest I killed," Massey said.

My first question would be why he shot the kid.

If it was a legitimate shooting in a combat zone, then so be it.

If it wasn't, then why is he still walking around free and not facing a courts martial.

[bimbo]

IMHO - Sounds like Massey is taking the John Kerrey route to a Congressionial Seat - I suppose Democrats will be calling for him to testify.
This time the Justice Department ought to prosecute his crimes before he gains political immunity.

[marine86297]

As a former Marine recruiter, I can point out one flaw in this story that is not readily noticeable by outsiders, Marine recruiters have never, I repeat never, refered to themselves as "recruitment counselors". This guy is total B.S. If he is lying about recruiting, then he is most likely lying about combat. This P.O.S. make me want to puke.

[mattdono]

I wonder if this Massey guy, "generally terrorize the hillsides of [Iraq] in a fashion reminiscent of Jen-Jis Khan"

Sounds like this guy is planning for a run in 2024.

[CrazyIvan]

Here we go again. Read "Stolen Valor' if you want a look at the sleazy psyche of this guy. The world is full of them. He was probably a REMF if in the military at all. B. G. Burkett has exposed hundreds of his kind. There won't be any record or orders given because "I was in so deep the government destroyed them all" or some other rubbish. Of course the useful idiots of any college campus will believe any story he gives them right down to chronological and technical impossibilities (One 'Nam phony even claimed he called in naval gunfire from the Arizona without anyone disputing him), and pay him to spread his agenda. He gets the bundled benefits pretending to be a macho warrior, and victim, and pay on top of that. If you have no morals or ethics it's a pretty sweet deal! You may even get a Democratic presidential nomination some day.

[Pylot]

Let's see, a recruiter who lies, cheats and deceives? And this is news???

[The Great RJ]

I suppose this guy will run for Congress and eventually President as an Iraq war veteran.

[Captain Rhino]

When this story came up last week I asked the following question and even sent a post to Matt Drudge asking him to check it out when it ran on his website:

Has anyone confirmed this guy's story with Headquarters Marine Corps personnel section?

It is not beyond the realm of possibility the this "Marine" is a fraud. It has been done by the Left before.

(I'm thinking here of the atrocity testimony given at the Winter Soldier hearings by supposed Vietnam veterans who were later discovered to be imposters. One of the guys leading those hearings used the testimony before Congress to make a name for himself, used the name to launch his political career, eventually became a US Senator, married well twice, and parlayed his office and his wife's money into a run for President. What was his name...wait, it's coming...oh, yeah, John F***ing Kerry!)