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Judge says DCF can't intervene in Terri Schiavo case
Associated Press ^ | March 10, 2005 | Mitch Stacy

Posted on 03/10/2005 12:22:56 PM PST by amdgmary

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To: flaglady47
Fine, just as long as it is the parents that try to feed her the food. Of course, they will probably kill her doing so. But if they want to try, it's their business. No objections here to handfeeding her; just know what the consequences will undoubtedly be, as per doctors' opinions.

We agree here.

But of course you know better than they do.

I *do* know that if Terri died as a result of being fed orally by the Schindlers, it would not be as a result of euthanasia, because their sole purpose in feeding her would be to sustain her life.

I also know that it would be far more merciful for Terri to die by feeding, because it would be quick. It is a cruel and inhuman abuse to let a person dry out for a period of up to two weeks.

641 posted on 03/11/2005 2:33:34 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Let me go indulge myself with a bit of chocolate Haagen-Dazs Life Support.)
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To: Lauren BaRecall

I don't think you meant to post to me, as I haven't posted to you before. I don't know what you are talking about.


642 posted on 03/11/2005 2:41:05 PM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: jackibutterfly

Your post #623 was addressed to me.


643 posted on 03/11/2005 2:46:38 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Let me go indulge myself with a bit of chocolate Haagen-Dazs Life Support.)
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To: Lauren BaRecall

Whoops, sorry. So I did. Thanks.


644 posted on 03/11/2005 3:04:07 PM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: ContraryMary

ContraryMary - did you READ that link in post #631?? It's really scary, and it sure clicks. Check it out - it'll only take you a minute.


645 posted on 03/11/2005 3:06:07 PM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: jackibutterfly

Ok :o)


646 posted on 03/11/2005 3:22:55 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Let me go indulge myself with a bit of chocolate Haagen-Dazs Life Support.)
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To: jackibutterfly

Yes, I read it. While there are some valid points, others are over the top.


647 posted on 03/11/2005 3:52:22 PM PST by ContraryMary
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To: Lauren BaRecall

"I also know that it would be far more merciful for Terri to die by feeding, because it would be quick."

On this particular point you and I are in agreement.


648 posted on 03/11/2005 5:14:11 PM PST by flaglady47
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To: flaglady47; Lauren BaRecall

I'll agree with the two of you as well.


649 posted on 03/11/2005 5:16:03 PM PST by ContraryMary
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To: utahagen; DJ MacWoW; Lauren BaRecall

Schiavo Attorney Felos No Stranger To Medicare Fraud
http://www.theempirejournal.com/0311051_schiavo_attorney_felos_n.htm

This is a conspiracy to defraud involving Michael Schiavo, George Felos, Gus Bilikaris, and George W. Greer.

650 posted on 03/11/2005 5:56:58 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: flaglady47

lol, talk about your left-handed put downs.

I can always tell when I am winning a debate with a social liberal when they A) change the subject; B) tell half-truths or nontruths C) attempt to put me down; D) call names; E) well, that's enough for now.

So far you are guilty of A), B) (last evening); C) (this evening). You haven't done D) yet, congrats.

OK, back to Terri. Last night I presented you with my favorite video of Terri, and, if you please, watch it and comment on it, and then tell me if you think Terri is PVS.

This is not a trick. I repeat. This is not a trick.

My favorite video of Terri is the one where she laughs when her dad reminds her of when she used to tease her mother, and roll her eye (Terri had "lazy eye").

If anyone wants to see this video, which only takes a minute, visit:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/1345652/posts?page=28

Then go to Post #28 & click the link.

Keep in mind when Terri makes sounds, she is attempting to talk, but needs therapy in order to talk. Even without therapy, Terri can say a few words. Sadly, Michael won't allow her to have ANY kind of therapy.


651 posted on 03/11/2005 6:20:30 PM PST by Sun (Visit www.theEmpireJournal.com * Pray for Terri. Pray to end abortion.)
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To: microgood
I saw a Doctor on Fox news basically saying the same thing. Including the medical people who would carry out the starvation. He basically said that they were opening themselves up for lawsuits and perhaps criminal charges by starving a person who is very much alive.
652 posted on 03/11/2005 6:24:23 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (YEAH DARKWING104!!)
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To: PhilDragoo

What a heck of a link ping - I think the Terri threads have the best graphics, and you continue to make a major contribution! I like that you're linking articles. Looks good, please do more.

I haven't read that article yet. Thanks, going there now.

(Personal favorite: "Il Duce" - it's just THAT good.)


653 posted on 03/11/2005 8:22:57 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Let me go indulge myself with a bit of chocolate Haagen-Dazs Life Support.)
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To: Sun

"I can always tell when I am winning a debate with a social liberal"

That's funny. You've been on this website almost exactly one year. I've been a Freeper almost since the beginning; joined in 1998. That's an awfully long haul for a "social liberal" to remain on a conservative website. You probably joined up because of the Schiavo threads only. Wonder if you know about anything political other than the Schiavo issue. Doubt it.


654 posted on 03/11/2005 8:31:18 PM PST by flaglady47
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To: flaglady47

Good.


655 posted on 03/11/2005 8:41:07 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Let me go indulge myself with a bit of chocolate Haagen-Dazs Life Support.)
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To: ContraryMary; flaglady47

Good. It's very good when common ground can be found.


656 posted on 03/11/2005 8:42:38 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Let me go indulge myself with a bit of chocolate Haagen-Dazs Life Support.)
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To: flaglady47

So what did you think of the video that proves you wrong and shows that Terri is not PVS??


657 posted on 03/11/2005 8:48:19 PM PST by Sun (Visit www.theEmpireJournal.com * Pray for Terri. Pray to end abortion.)
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Be careful what you wish for:

The Will to Live

When Marjorie Nighbert entered a nursing home after having a stroke, she did not expect to be starved to death, but that is what happened when she became a victim of her own "wishes."

Like many people, she did not want her life to be prolonged when death was imminent. So Nighbert created a durable power of attorney (DPA), in which she gave her brother control over medical decisions in case she could not make them for herself. And according to the family lawyer, Nighbert said she did not want a feeding tube if she became terminally ill.

When Nighbert fell ill the nursing home followed the orders of the DPA and denied her food and water for two weeks. But then something unexpected happened: She asked to be fed. A court battle ensued, and the court ultimately upheld the nursing home's decision to deny Nighbert food and water. According to the judge, Nighbert was not competent to ask for food, and to give her food would constitute "extraordinary means."

Nighbert died on April 6, 1995.

http://www.feministsforlife.org/taf/1995/winter/wiltoliv.htm

To prevent people from suffering the same fate as Marjorie Nighbert, the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC) has created the Will to Live. This differs from the living will by being based on a general presumption for life. It is also much more detailed to avoid ambiguities that could later be interpreted in favor of death. Currently, the Will to Live is complete for fourteen states: Alaska, Arizona, Georgia, Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, New Mexico, New York, North Dakota, South Dakota, Washington, West Virginia and the District of Columbia. The other states are in various stages of preparation and will be completed soon.

If you would like a Will to Live for one of the states mentioned, send a business size, self- addressed, stamped envelope to:

The Will to Live Project
419 7th Street, NW, Suite 500
Washington, D.C. 20004.


658 posted on 03/11/2005 10:47:51 PM PST by Sun (Visit www.theEmpireJournal.com * Pray for Terri. Pray to end abortion.)
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