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A Way To Eliminate Payrolls

Posted on 03/10/2005 7:23:53 AM PST by TheNightFly

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To: Egon
what if I want to pay my neighbor for helping me fix my fence? Or buy lemonade from the kid down the street?

What if the Fed puts a "carnivore" AI in the system to track the type of transaction and feed it to the FBI,IRS,CIA, etc. ?

121 posted on 03/11/2005 5:24:15 AM PST by Brett66 (W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1)
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To: Brett66
What if the Fed puts a "carnivore" AI in the system to track the type of transaction and feed it to the FBI,IRS,CIA, etc. ?

Wouldn't worry too much. I doubt anyone at the Fed has this type of expertise and, with this system in place, they wouldn't be able to pay a programmer to do it either!

122 posted on 03/11/2005 5:29:34 AM PST by Egon (Government is a guard-dog to be fed, not a cow to be milked.)
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To: Born to Conserve; MAK1179; briansb
"How about the Fed give us little metal and paper tokens that represent our credit, and then we can just trade goods and services with these tokens? We can call these tokens "money"."

Bingo! you win the prize for understanding that this is currently how our system (and the system of every other 'civilized' society on the planet) operates.

Another detail to add though... all money (literally ALL money) is in fact created via the extension of credit (it's a long description, but it's true, just trust me at this point).

So all money is initially created as an extension of credit AND (this is important) that extension of credit includes interest.

Thank about that.... there are a many very significant meanings to this, but the primary thing to consider is that in the system as a whole, there is NEVER enough total money in circulation to resolve the total debt. It is mathematically impossible for all individuals to balance their annual accounts at the same time that all governments balance their accounts. It simply cannot happen as there is just not enough "money" in existence to equal the amount of "debt" in existence.

The design of the system requires that debt be over extended and then cancelled at various points in the process.

Now consider the concept of a balanced federal budget. If all the citizens balance their own accounts and there is no trade surplus with other countries, the feds simply can NOT balance their budget without drastically removing "money" from circulation, a LOT of money would be removed from the system and unavailable for extending further credit and fueling commerce.

It's all in the design of any Keynesian economic system and has been from at least 1913.

This is likely one of the more important of all the esoteric topics ordinary citizens could dwell on.

Think about it a bit.

123 posted on 03/11/2005 5:54:18 AM PST by Lloyd227 (American Forces armed with what? Spit balls?)
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To: Lazamataz
He's still here. You were wrong.

You have known me long enough to know that I usually am.

It has never kept me from being a know-it-all in the past.

Anyway, I just said goodbye to him,,,,,ummm,,until we are on the same thread again soon,,,ummm, yeah, that's it,,until later....

124 posted on 03/11/2005 6:51:46 AM PST by Protagoras (If the Republican Party enacts a new tax they will be out of power for at least a generation)
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To: Lazamataz

It wasn't because they are new...


125 posted on 03/11/2005 7:54:38 AM PST by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: Lazamataz

Hey Laz...2 years ago, I may have been quick on the Zot. I haven't been in a while....


126 posted on 03/11/2005 8:01:10 AM PST by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: Lazamataz

I didn't post the self-imolation graphic JUST because the person who signed up just to start this thread was a newbie. My first impression of the newbies post is still intact, but it's a good thing to remember not every newb deserves to be zotted. Thanks for your concern.


127 posted on 03/11/2005 11:01:16 AM PST by PilloryHillary (I lead a simple, heteronormative existence.)
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To: PilloryHillary
Just doin' my job, ma'am.


128 posted on 03/11/2005 11:02:51 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999!)
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To: Lazamataz

Who do you think you are, interfering with the duly designated mob? I think you're some sort of newbie troll, pal...


129 posted on 03/11/2005 11:07:11 AM PST by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: TheNightFly
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130 posted on 03/11/2005 12:21:25 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Lazamataz; TheNightFly
Hey, I didn't ZOT just because of a newbie. I was following the mob! It was peer pressure. All the cool kids were doing it. I was zotted once and have painful memories that lie beneath my psyche and scream into the night of my soul to be released.

Also, I'm notorious for posting before I've even read the article. I will seek to use my ZOTS only for good in the future.

No hard feelins'?

131 posted on 03/11/2005 5:34:20 PM PST by SquirrelKing (I see you're drinking one percent. Is that because you think you're fat?)
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To: SquirrelKing
No hard feelins'?

'Course not.

132 posted on 03/12/2005 4:47:07 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999!)
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