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Bush's hydrogen future is here (Big break through)
United Nuclear ^

Posted on 03/07/2005 10:45:56 AM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com

United Nuclear is currently in final testing, and will shortly be producing Hydrogen Fuel Systems & Hydrogen generators for several late model, fuel injected, Gasoline powered vehicles.

Powering a vehicle by Hydrogen is by no means a new idea, and in fact, almost all automobile manufacturers are currently developing a new generation of vehicles that run on Hydrogen as opposed to Gasoline. This new generation of vehicles are essentially electric cars that use a Fuel Cell instead of a battery to run the electric motor. Using a chemical process, Fuel Cells in these new vehicles convert the stored Hydrogen on board, and the Oxygen in the air, directly into electricity to power their electric motors. These new vehicles are very efficient, and in fact are more efficient than any internal combustion engine. The problem is that these new vehicles are years away from production, are very expensive, and converting to using Hydrogen fuel in this manner requires you to buy a new ( and expensive ) vehicle. All Hydrogen/Fuel Cell systems currently under development by large manufacturers have you purchase Hydrogen as you would Gasoline. Our system comes with its own "in-home" Hydrogen generator which allows you to manufacture fuel yourself at near zero cost. Our Hydrogen conversion is an intermediate approach that simply converts your existing vehicle to burn Hydrogen or Gasoline. The Gasoline fuel system remains intact and is not modified. This allows you to switch between running on Gasoline or Hydrogen at any time. The engine itself is only slightly modified, the conversion makes substantial changes to the computer & electrical system, ignition and cooling systems. Since they never have to be removed, Hydrogen fuel storage (Hydride tanks) can be installed in virtually any available space within the vehicle.

(Excerpt) Read more at unitednuclear.com ...


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KEYWORDS: bush; energy; hydrogen; mideast; ohthehumanity
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The storage system for the hydrogen is amazing. It makes sense I just wonder how much it will cost you in electricity to produce the hydrogen. United Nuclear converted a 1994 corvette to burn hydrogen or gas, and got 650 miles on a hydrogen tank.

It's a very interesting company, and I hope they can get some federal funding - rather then the government giving it to the auto industry.

Holtz JeffersonRepublic.com

1 posted on 03/07/2005 10:46:01 AM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com
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...and I hope they can get some federal funding - rather then the government giving it to the auto industry.

I hope we can someday get the government out of promoting private industries and leave this to the market. Short of that... I hope as you hope.

3 posted on 03/07/2005 10:50:28 AM PST by pgyanke (Senate Republicans follow a policy of preemptive capitulation)
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To: JeffersonRepublic.com
The storage system for the hydrogen is amazing. It makes sense I just wonder how much it will cost you in electricity to produce the hydrogen. United Nuclear converted a 1994 corvette to burn hydrogen or gas, and got 650 miles on a hydrogen tank.

I guess, police will have to go though a few jurisdictions during high speed chases if this comes to be... :D

4 posted on 03/07/2005 10:50:55 AM PST by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com JUST UPDATED)
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To: JeffersonRepublic.com

The real question is how much power goes into the process. If it requires electricity then you have to evaluate the energy use from the source. Somebody has to produce the electricity.


5 posted on 03/07/2005 10:51:23 AM PST by Arkie2
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United Nuclear has been featured on Coast to Coast AM radio with host Art Bell, and nationwide CBS television news.

Um, I'm not going to hold my breath on this one.

6 posted on 03/07/2005 10:53:22 AM PST by bahblahbah
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To: JeffersonRepublic.com
Mt wife's volks diesel gets over 500 on a tank full and its a 12 gallon tank.
7 posted on 03/07/2005 10:53:30 AM PST by DainBramage
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“…they said hydrogen tanks im guessing that they are using hydrogen in a gas phase. Isnt that prone to big explosions?”

They said that they have cut a full tank of hydrogen in half with a blowtorch. Below is an excerpt from their web page:

“There are materials call Hydrides that absorb Hydrogen like a sponge absorbs water. Typically, the tanks are filled with granulated Hydrides, and Hydrogen is pressurized into the material. Hydrides have many advantages over liquid & gas. One is that the density of the Hydrogen stored in the Hydride can be GREATER than that of liquid Hydrogen. This translates directly into smaller and fewer storage tanks.
Once the Hydride is "charged" with Hydrogen, the Hydrogen becomes chemically bonded to the chemical. Even opening the tank, or cutting it in half will not release the Hydrogen gas. In addition, you could even fire incendiary bullets through the tank and the Hydride would only smolder like a cigarette. It is in fact, a safer storage system than your Gasoline tank is.
Then how do you get the Hydrogen back out? To release the Hydrogen gas from the Hydride, it simply needs to be heated. This is either done electrically, using the waste exhaust heat, or using the waste radiator coolant heat.”

It’s worth reading about if you have any interest in alternatives to GASOLINE.


8 posted on 03/07/2005 10:53:59 AM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com (The 51st state is right around the corner.)
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To: The_wonderful_wizard_of_oz

I didn't read anything about solid Hydrogen fuel cells which would handle the "big explosion" problem. When oil hits $80 a barrell, we'll quit being so lazy.


9 posted on 03/07/2005 10:54:09 AM PST by griswold3
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Our system comes with its own "in-home" Hydrogen generator which allows you to manufacture fuel yourself at near zero cost.

Yes, all the current oil companies are ecstatic about his and will do what they can to make it happen. /sarcasm
10 posted on 03/07/2005 10:54:20 AM PST by mike182d ("Let fly the white flag of war." - Zapp Brannigan)
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To: JeffersonRepublic.com

Unfortunately, all of these technologies are about 20 years or more from market. They sound good on paper, though.


11 posted on 03/07/2005 10:54:47 AM PST by Brilliant
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12 posted on 03/07/2005 10:55:41 AM PST by jla
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To: The_wonderful_wizard_of_oz

the hydrogen on board the vehicle isnt a compressed gas.


13 posted on 03/07/2005 10:56:09 AM PST by kingattax ( "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing." -Thomas Jefferson)
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Sorry, I missed that part.


14 posted on 03/07/2005 10:56:16 AM PST by griswold3
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It doesn't matter. The massive explosions causing loss of life and millions of dollars in property damage are nothing compared to the .000000000000002 deadly atoms of C02 your SUV emits into the precious atmosphere.

Just deal with it- it is for the common good, jeez.

;)






16 posted on 03/07/2005 10:56:55 AM PST by jsmith48 (www.isupatriot.com)
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To: The_wonderful_wizard_of_oz

Ironically, the first Hydrogen powered vehicle made by GM will be called the Hindenburg. Strange coincidence???


17 posted on 03/07/2005 10:57:01 AM PST by Holicheese (This is Hockey East)
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To: JeffersonRepublic.com

One of the big things to remember is that hydrogen is only a storage device.

However, it does allow us to run our cars and trucks and all of the sectors of the economy related to them without relying on middle eastern oil.


18 posted on 03/07/2005 10:57:24 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: JeffersonRepublic.com
"It makes sense I just wonder how much it will cost you in electricity to produce the hydrogen."

It will cost you a lot. I don't have the exact figures but obviously the production of hydrogen is one of the limiting factors hindering commercial fuel cell use today. The other is of course, the platinum catalyst on which the reaction takes place which is the heart of the fuel cell. Not only is the platinum catalyst expensive, it poisons easily if you have trace amounts of sulfur in your hydrogen stream after reforming. I still have to look into the "at-home" reforming system that this company promotes but most likely it will leave trace amounts of impurities which will shave time off of the life of your fuel cell.

19 posted on 03/07/2005 10:58:53 AM PST by ned13
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I just hope that this is all true and in a few years we dont need Oil for anything. Then the whole mess in the middle east can becomes as important as the mess in Rwanda or Sudan.


20 posted on 03/07/2005 10:59:02 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (Liberal media bias? NAAAAHHHHH!)
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