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Border Group Fears Infiltration By Supremacists:Volunteer Patrols, FBI Wary As Stakeout Nears
Arizona Republic ^ | Mar 5, 9:36 am | Susan Carroll

Posted on 03/06/2005 10:05:12 AM PST by Calpernia

TOMBSTONE-- The FBI and leaders of a civilian patrol set to descend on southern Arizona next month to prevent undocumented immigrants from crossing the U.S.-Mexican border say they are concerned about White supremacists and other extremists joining the effort.

The Internet-driven recruiting effort for the Minuteman Project has attracted more than 700 volunteers and last week alone generated more than 1 million hits on the project's Web site, organizers said.

But the patrol also has drawn major interest on White supremacist Web sites and in their chat rooms. An Aryan Nation site links directly to the Minuteman Project home page with the words: "A call for action on part of ALL ARYAN SOLDIERS."

FBI spokeswoman Susan Herskovitz said the civilian patrol's plan to converge on this city of 1,500 on April 1 for a monthlong stakeout on the border is "definitely a concern." She declined to elaborate.

Jim Gilchrist, who launched the project, sometimes thinks of his brainchild and asks, "Oh, man, what have I created?" Still, Gilchrist, 56, a retired California accountant, said that he is confident the group's efforts will be a "peaceful protest" by "patriots" who reject violence and that members will successfully weed out any extremists.

Besides catching the attention of law enforcement, the group's plans have angered the Mexican government, which is considering suing in the United States to try to stop the patrol.

Mexican Foreign Minister Luis Ernesto Derbez said earlier this week that he also plans to complain to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice when she visits Mexico City on Thursday.

A Mexico City newspaper this past Wednesday ran a front-page headline about hundreds of Americans "hunting" immigrants.

'Peaceful protest'

The Minuteman Project is an outgrowth of an effort started in 2002 by Chris Simcox, a retired kindergarten teacher and California transplant.

He founded an organization called Civil Homeland Defense, which patrols the desert, finds undocumented immigrants and relays their locations to U.S. Border Patrol agents. Simcox describes the efforts as a kind of expanded "neighborhood watch."

Gilchrist heard about Simcox's work on the news, came to Arizona to meet him and launched the nationwide recruiting drive for the Minuteman Project in October. Although Simcox's efforts had attracted media attention before, it was not nearly on this scale. Since November, major news media, from CNN to the Los Angeles Times to the Associated Press, have broadcast or printed reports on the effort.

The group's members plan to hold demonstrations and conduct round-the-clock patrols for a month in the San Pedro Valley, a popular smuggling corridor. Organizers do not expect all the volunteers at once and say some may stay for days, while others plan to remain the whole month. The volunteers are paying their own way to the border, organizers said. They would not disclose details about where patrol members will stay.

The effort has met with opposition from Cochise County Supervisor Paul Newman, who called members "gun-toting vigilantes," but other area politicians, such as Bill Barlow, a Tombstone city councilman, have expressed support for the patrol and say they welcome the tourism money the group is expected to generate.

"We don't expect any trouble," Barlow said. "I see no problem with them at all."

Paul K. Charlton, U.S. attorney for the District of Arizona, said the widespread media coverage is to blame for attracting so much interest in the Minuteman effort. The Border Patrol and other federal officials have asked civilians not to interfere with undocumented immigrants or law enforcement, saying they endanger themselves and others.

"When people act as vigilantes, they put themselves at risk, they put other law-abiding citizens at risk, and they put law enforcement at risk," he said. "It's not a nuanced issue here. We want citizens to assist law enforcement by calling in when they see a crime, by giving us information if they see suspicious activity. But no one in law enforcement, for example, is asking anyone to carry weapons into a bank and sit on a stool and wait for a bank robbery.

"That's the distinction here. These people are putting themselves and others in harm's way."

Gilchrist insists that the volunteers are not "vigilantes" and said that the vast majority are simply frustrated by the federal government's lack of enforcement along the 1,950-mile Southwestern border, particularly Arizona, the busiest illegal crossing corridor in the nation.

But Gilchrist acknowledged that all the attention has attracted fringe groups, mainly three "violent" factions that are trying to co-opt the group's efforts: White supremacists, radical pro-Hispanic groups and "open-border fanatics."

"We just want to be middle of the road," Gilchrist said. "We're going to be supporting the enforcement of the law, not taking the law into our own hands."

Policing the project

Organizers of the Minuteman Project say they are working to weed out overt racists from membership rolls and say they have turned over three people to the FBI. The agency would not confirm that information.

Simcox said applicants are screened, noting that the group identified a person who was posting on a White-supremacist Web site and kicked him off the patrol.

All members will be issued ID badges, Simcox said, and anyone who is not pre-registered will not be allowed to participate. All will be required to provide a driver's license. Volunteers will patrol in small groups on foot and relay information to the Border Patrol. Organizers said patrol members can carry sidearms but not rifles and will be expected to abide by state and federal gun laws.

"I'm assuring the community that the organizers, using private investigators and other sources that we have thoroughly screened the volunteers that will be working with us," Simcox said. They will not provide a membership list to law enforcement, he said.

Simcox said he was upset by the association with the White Power Web sites but has no way to stop them from linking to the Minuteman site.

The Aryan Nation did not return messages seeking comment.

Its Web site includes a message that the group is "not interested in participating with any commercial media" in part because of "your anti-White stance."

"We're certainly embarrassed by it," Simcox said of the Aryan Nation's interest in his group's patrol.

Hedi Beirich, deputy director of the Alabama-based Southern Poverty Law Center, is skeptical of Minuteman organizers' claims that they will be able to weed out White supremacists.

"Although the people running the Minuteman Project claim they're going to somehow screen applicants . . . and send information to the FBI, which I find hard to believe, chances are some of these pretty nasty people are going to end up down at the border," she said. "And it's dangerous; these are people who hate people of color."

Minuteman organizers, who maintain that their efforts are an expression of their First Amendment rights, take exception to being called racist.

"Some people have said I'm racist, and that's just not true," Gilchrist said. "My son-in-law is a full-on Mexican, and my grandson is half-Mexican. It's not a race thing. This is an enforcement-of-law issue. I've said this so many times I get tired talking about it."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalimmigrants; immigration; infiltration; minutemen; obsleepers; stormfront; whitesupremacists
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Don't mean to post and run, I have sick kids I'm tending to.

This is important though. As much as I support the original intent of the Minutemen, if they are truely infiltrated, this will backfire.

I saw closed message board posts talking about infiltrating this movement. There are plans to sabotage it.

Just wanted the FYI out there for consideration.

1 posted on 03/06/2005 10:05:13 AM PST by Calpernia
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To: KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; Dolphy; appalachian_dweller

ping


2 posted on 03/06/2005 10:05:36 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
Border Group Fears Infiltration By Supremacists: Volunteer Patrols, FBI Wary As Stakeout Nears

How can they fear being infiltrated by themselves?

3 posted on 03/06/2005 10:07:34 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: All

Personally, I hope it all goes to hell.

Maybe politicians will start paying attention.


4 posted on 03/06/2005 10:10:13 AM PST by Stopislamnow (Islam sucks.)
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To: Calpernia
he group's plans have angered the Mexican government, which is considering suing in the United States to try to stop the patrol.

Angered the mexican govt? They should be assisting the US to stop illegals from crossing over. Ridiculous!

5 posted on 03/06/2005 10:13:28 AM PST by stopem (Support the troops yellow ribbon purse-key-holders.)
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To: Calpernia
..... are concerned about White supremacists and other extremists joining the [Minutemen] effort.

Obviously the Minutemen isn't a racist org, nor are they vigilantes (their "weapons" of choice are the cell phone and walkie-talkie). And of course they're justifiably concerned with actual racists joining their ranks. ....but those types should be fairly easy to weed out.

6 posted on 03/06/2005 10:13:46 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: ClintonBeGone

The Minute Men are not supremicists.

Didn't you read the article, or did you just cherrypick a quote then drop down to post?


7 posted on 03/06/2005 10:16:03 AM PST by totherightofu
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To: Calpernia
This article is nothing more than conjecture. There are no examples of infiltration given. The strongest connection between the Minutemen and skinheads that is given is a website link. That's it.

I suspect the usual liberal propaganda involving immigration, nothing more.

8 posted on 03/06/2005 10:17:08 AM PST by Reactionary
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To: stopem
the mexican govt? They should be assisting the US to stop illegals from crossing over. Ridiculous!

The Mex gov't benefits greatly from the money that illegals (in America) plug back into their economy, so of course they're angry about any effort (by American patriots) to cut off the flow of aliens into our country.

9 posted on 03/06/2005 10:18:46 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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This whole thing has spun way out of control. Unfortunately, the BP played a huge role in that because THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT. They backed the project 100% at first, then abruptly did a 180 when they learned that the PRIMARY PURPOSE of the exercise is to monitor BP response times. Oh my, we can't have that, now can we? It was at that point that the BP started holding press conferences, mischaracterizing the MM as "trigger-happy Mexican hunters"
and "vigilantes." Shortly thereafter the Mexican government issued their "threats."

What most people don't realize (since somehow MMS has not reported this -- gee, I wonder why?) is that MOST volunteers are former US military and law enforcement officers themselves (obviously this does not include skinheads/white supremacists).

Those of us near the border have been following this closely, and most of us (except the left-wing illegal immigrant "rights" groups) support this endeavor 100%. What a shame it is being sabotaged.

Again, BP is to blame for most of this mess.


10 posted on 03/06/2005 10:20:31 AM PST by totherightofu
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To: Calpernia

"When people act as vigilantes, they put themselves at risk, they put other law-abiding citizens at risk, and they put law enforcement at risk," he said."

Why is it when you want to observe and report "illegals" crossing the border you're a "vigilante", but yet when you shoot and kill an invader illegally entering your home or business you're a hero?

I smell a double standard lurking here....


11 posted on 03/06/2005 10:22:23 AM PST by politicalwit (Republican and Democrats are across the aisle but sleep in the same bed.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

It could be a very dangerous thing to have so many people trying to stop from coming.
As far as benefits, from reading I have done it benefits also many American business's to have illegals work for them.

However, there have been many murders, especially of women at the Texas/Mexican boarders, over 400 murders as I recall, the worry maybe would there be an increase of life taken at the boarders with various groups joining in to stop illegal entry.


12 posted on 03/06/2005 10:24:03 AM PST by yhml
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To: ClintonBeGone
I don't want Canadian illegals here either does that still make me a white supremacist?
14 posted on 03/06/2005 10:26:59 AM PST by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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To: yhml
there have been many murders, especially of women at the Texas/Mexican boarders, over 400 murders as I recall

Along with people just looking for a better life (although the vast majority of even those have no intention whatsoever of ever becoming Americanized), the worst of the worst are coming up here as well. .....in very large numbers. The rate of violent crime committed by illegals outdistances that of any other group by a country mile, and currently 600,000 illegals are incarcerated in American prisons, costing the U.S. taxpayer $1.6 Billion annually.

15 posted on 03/06/2005 10:28:59 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: ClintonBeGone
Why, thank you for that crass and ridiculous slur against people you don't even know. Are you always like that? Do you have any friends? And, if so, are they ignorant jerks?
16 posted on 03/06/2005 10:31:37 AM PST by broadsword (You don't deal with a cancer by only dealing with the cells that are painful. Cut them ALL out!)
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"This is important though. As much as I support the original intent of the Minutemen, if they are truely infiltrated, this will backfire."

Then do as the demonRATS want:
DON"T DO ANYTHING!!!

If you can't be POSITIVE about anything....
Then get out of the way; let people that want to keep the
AMERICAN DREAM alive for the next generation, have a chance to do what is necessary; the government sure isn't.

17 posted on 03/06/2005 10:31:44 AM PST by hoot2
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To: Calpernia
Team every suspected white racist signing up, with a "team member": A non-white person. The Nazi-types will get the message soon enough and quit (if they don't like patrolling with one of the 'sub-human' species ..(in their minds).
18 posted on 03/06/2005 10:32:38 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Illegal Aliens "Those Wonderful People" in Jail Now Are $1.4 Billion A Year For California Taxpayers)
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To: Calpernia; EdReform; Thinkin' Gal; mrflashrifle; dennisw; SJackson; MeekOneGOP; TrueBeliever9; ...

The new and updated map has arrived!!!!

19 posted on 03/06/2005 10:33:19 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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To: ClintonBeGone

They've been infiltrated by La Raza supporters posing as white supremacists to make them look bad...;)


20 posted on 03/06/2005 10:36:50 AM PST by joesnuffy (If GW had been driving....Mary Jo would still be with us...)
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