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Cong. Solomon Ortiz, Southern Border is under Siege"
LOU DOBBS/CNN ^ | 3/04/05 | Transcript-aired 3/4/5

Posted on 03/05/2005 8:59:04 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage

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To: JustAnotherSavage; SwinneySwitch; The South Texan; Theodore R.; MeekOneGOP; MadIvan
Ping!

What a surprise. My Congresscritter actually held a press conference.

21 posted on 03/05/2005 10:44:28 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: JustAnotherSavage
There have been numerous reports of terrorists and other violent criminals who threaten our security sneaking across the borders into this country - including even one by Geraldo Rivera, another by Jonathan Athens.
22 posted on 03/05/2005 10:48:33 AM PST by Dante3
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Time magazine quote: “The number of illegal aliens flooding into the US this year will total 3 million - enough to fill 22,000 Boeing 727-700 airliners, or 60 flights every day for a year.”

Thanks for that. Very interesting. Makes my call for a C-130 instead of a 49 seater look woefully wimpy.

23 posted on 03/05/2005 11:13:22 AM PST by BJungNan (Junk mail is killing email. Don't buy from spam emails!!!)
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"There have been numerous reports of terrorists and other violent criminals who threaten our security sneaking across the borders into this country - including even one by Geraldo Rivera, another by Jonathan Athens."


Yes, the warning has been put out by many. The illegal lovers insist every one of them is not credible:




http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0411/16/ldt.01.html

DOBBS: Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is warning of the threat of terrorists entering this country through the same routes as those used by illegal aliens. Secretary Rumsfeld, traveling in South America, warned that enemies look for weaknesses and take advantage of them.

DONALD RUMSFELD, SECRETARY OF DEFENSE: The risk is that some of these human-smuggling routes into our country from this hemisphere could be used just as easily for terrorists.

DOBBS: And three million illegal aliens are estimated to be entering this country this year.

Secretary Rumsfeld also said the United States has to be, as he put it, smarter and quicker in securing our borders. The federal government's failure to secure those borders is leading individual states to take action. Arizona's Proposition 200, which limits state benefits for illegals, passed overwhelmingly two weeks ago. Now at least half a dozen other states are considering similar measures.


24 posted on 03/05/2005 11:24:37 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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Hey guys who cares!!! let all illegal's, leaches, and outlaws from mexico come and sit in america on welfare, WHO CARES if they aren't American Citizens, we should STILL PAY FOR THEIR LAZYNESS!! its fun to do! heck if ya can't beat 'em join 'em. OPEN THE SOUTHERN BORDER!!!!! YAY CHEAP LABOR TOO!


25 posted on 03/05/2005 11:25:33 AM PST by DixieOklahoma (Since 2004: real American voters = 1, dead democrats = 0)
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http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/

New Postings of Victims and Criminals...

Oswaldo Martinez Oswaldo Martinez is an illegal alien, arrested in mid-February for the rape and murder of 16-year-old Brittany Binger in James City, Virginia. The girl was so badly beaten that dental records were required to identify the body.
Martinez had been in custody in 2004 for drunk driving, possessing a bogus Social Security number and driving without a license. He was clearly a candidate for deportation, yet nothing was done because of "cracks in the legal system." This demonstrable criminal was left in America to rape and kill a teenaged girl because the safety of citizens is not a priority for law enforcement.
How many more deaths of innocents will it take for officials to take the problem of illegal alien criminals seriously enough to deport them?

Vinessa Hoera Vinessa Hoera was brutally murdered in February 2004 by Faustino Chavez, an illegal alien from Guatemala, when she refused his obnoxious romantic advances. He raped her at knifepoint, strangled her, then slashed her throat five times. It took police two months of searching to find her body where it had been dumped in the woods in Suffolk County, New York. The victim met Chavez in a seafood store in Westhampton Beach where they both worked.
Chavez was court Feb 14, 2005, where he accepted a plea bargain in the February 2004 murder. Vinessa's distraught family did not want the additional emotional stress of a full trial. Chavez will get his official sentence of 22 years to life in prison on March 15.
Vinessa was a single mom, and her son, now aged six and living with his father, recently asked why his mother had to die so young. When Xavier Thomas Moore is a lot older and understands the corruption of politics, he can ask why our elected leaders have sacrificed innocent citizens like his mom so business could have the open borders and cheap labor pipeline it prizes.

Justin Goodman Here is another person run down and killed on our highways by an illegal alien. Justin Goodman, 32, was knocked from his motorcycle in Thornton, Colorado, on July 1, 2004, and died near the curb. The SUV which struck him never stopped.
Justin's mother Carol Vizzi was alarmed to learn that the illegal alien driver, Roberto Martinez-Ruiz, had a long history of run-ins with the law, including several drunk driving arrests, having half a dozen different alias, jail time served in 2000, driving with a revoked license, among others.
Despite Martinez-Ruiz' long rap sheet, no official ever contacted the INS to have him deported. "We as a society gave him the message that he could break our laws and get away with it and continue that type of behavior and not suffer any real severe consequences for it," said Vizzi.
Tragically, a man like Martinez-Ruiz was considered a non-violent criminal, so he could remain in America to take the life of Justin Goodman.

Russell Pearce Russell Pearce is a father whose police officer son Sean was shot and wounded by an illegal alien. Pearce is also a member of the Arizona House of Representatives.
Rep. Pearce worked for border enforcement before his son was shot and was a strong voice for Prop 200, the Arizona citizen's initiative requiring that prospective voters and welfare recipients show identification, which passed in Nov. 2004. But now he has one more reason, a personal one, to work through the legislative process to protect America's sovereignty and people.
As it happened, on the day Sean was wounded, Rep. Pearce was in Washington to speak at Brookings on the subject of immigration policy. "I was interrupted and given a message to call (wife) LuAnne in reference to an emergency at home," Rep. Pearce remarked later. "I called to find out my son Sean had been shot while executing a search warrant on a home for homicide suspects and was being flown by helicopter to the hospital. I later learned the suspects and the shooter were illegal aliens and had been issued Matricula Consular cards so they could get services in the United States."

Melissa Dorner
Melissa Dorner was only 21 when she was murdered in her own apartment in Chicago. Her friends remembered her as a "wonderful, caring human being" and many notes and flowers in remembrance were left in front of the apartment building. She graduated from Evanston High School in 2002 and worked as a hostess in a restaurant. Melissa had fought off an accused serial rapist Mario Villa a year earlier. Her strangled and beaten body was found Jan. 24.
The apparent killer is Roberto Ramirez, who is believed by police to have fled to Mexico. He was last seen in Chicago with blood on his clothes and scratches on his face.

David Montiel Cruz
Here is some good news from the California courts. Shown at the left is David Montiel Cruz who brutally kidnapped a nine-year-old girl from her San Jose home in 2003 and injured her mother and brother as they tried to protect her. After several days of being raped, she convinced him to release her, and a few days later supplied police with enough detail of her captivity that they could quickly find and arrest the criminal.
On January 21, Cruz was sentenced to 102 years in prison. The judge remarked, "In 18 years of being part of this distinguished bench, I have never encountered (a crime) as vicious as this."
The young victim requested through a letter read to the court to "put that man in jail for the rest of his life or in other words, eternity."

Francisco Serrano
Imagine that you have a 16-year-old daughter in high school: would you want this 21-year-old Mexican illegal alien sitting next to her?
That scenario was apparently real in Apple Valley High School in Minnesota where Francisco Serrano lived for several weeks by freeloading school lunches, attending classes and sleeping in the auditorium. He kept his things in a locker, used the computers in the library and doesn't appear to have missed any meals.
Despite the fact that this is a grown man, about whose background little is known, the Principal Steve Degenaar insisted that Serrano presented no danger and also sent an email to parents saying, "It's very sad and unfortunate that we have a young man with nowhere to go." On the contrary, Mr. Serrano's home is in Mexico, where he should be sent ASAP.
Update: Serrano has become the January feel-good story in Minnesota, now that a fellow "immigrant" has rescued the school lurker from homelessness. One news story regretted how the young man's illegal alien status took away from his identity as victim: "Serrano's legal problems detract from the focal point of this story, which is homelessness. We don't know if a fear of discovery as an illegal immigrant kept Serrano from seeking social services."
Incidentally, Serrano's benefactor, developer Basim Sabri, is a convicted felon who is awaiting sentencing for attempting to bribe a Minneapolis city council member.


26 posted on 03/05/2005 12:12:04 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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To: Dat Mon; All

Check this out! New Zealand is upset because there are 100 illegals in their country!


115 illegal immigrants slipped through borders – Peters
05 March 2005

More than 100 illegal immigrants are at large in New Zealand, New Zealand First Leader Winston Peters says.

In Parliament on Wednesday Mr Peters questioned how the Government had "allowed" 700 illegal immigrants to get into New Zealand despite having false passports or after destroying or losing travel documents.

Of that group 115 had slipped through the cracks, Mr Peters revealed yesterday.

In a written answer to Mr Peter's question, Immigration Minister Paul Swain said 303 of the 700 were granted refugee status, 58 still had an undecided claim with the Refugee Status Appeals Authority, 108 had left the country. A further 116 were still in New Zealand with an appeal or application pending or had been granted residence under different policies rather than on refugee status, or they had a temporary permit.

He confirmed the remainder were here illegally.

Mr Peters said this was disturbing.

"We do not know who they are, what threat they pose or even where they are located - this is simply not good enough," he said in a statement.

Mr Peters said the 115 were a tiny fraction of about 20,000 illegal immigrants in New Zealand.

"It is time the minister stopped hiding behind bureaucratic incompetence and actually went and found these people before they can inflict serious damage on our country and its people," he said.

Mr Swain said it was concerning people were living here illegally.

"Any people who are not here lawfully in New Zealand undermine the system and obviously then undermine those people who are legitimately trying to get to New Zealand legally."

It was important to note the figures were over three years, he said.

The 115 people were likely to have gone to ground after applications to stay failed and if they were not at the last known address it was hard to track them.

"We rely on tips and anonymous information to go after them and, of course, when they are caught up with they are removed and are on the plane and home."

The Government had introduced measures to tighten borders, such as advanced passenger processing (APP), where people were checked via computer before boarding a plane, he said.

There was increased funding for fraud detection, prosecution and intelligence analysis, and the Government had introduced tough provisions against people smugglers, he said.

"The numbers across the board of overstayers that are removed or voluntarily go home was hovering around 1500 a year over the last three or five years, for the last full financial year that had gone up to about 2500," Mr Swain said.

"We're getting more staff, more people removed and fewer coming here to make claims because of the APP system. The numbers are going down and the removals are going up but that doesn't get away from the underlying problem which all countries face - which is illegal immigrants."

However, he was confident progress was being made.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3207560a6160,00.html


27 posted on 03/05/2005 12:33:06 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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they have to move to process these individuals coming in and that leaves the border wide open.

Process? What is so hard about saying go back where you came from?

28 posted on 03/05/2005 1:43:54 PM PST by itsahoot (There are some things more painful than the truth, but I can't think of them.)
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That's the government, create a problem, throw a bunch of money at it and call it good. This isn't complicated, but they've sure made it that way.


29 posted on 03/05/2005 1:47:36 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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"The FROBL's dismiss Dobbs along with Malkin, Limbaugh, and all the conservatives speaking out against this. "

Limbaugh has decried illegal immigration but has said the solution is a guest worker program. How does he differ from Bush?

30 posted on 03/05/2005 3:52:54 PM PST by bayourod (Unless we get over 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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"It is time the minister stopped hiding behind bureaucratic incompetence and actually went and found these people before they can inflict serious damage on our country and its people," he said.

We need this guy over here.

I hear Australia really is they same way. They actively discourage illegals.

31 posted on 03/05/2005 4:02:58 PM PST by Missouri
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I agree.

It's well past time to put a big stop to this nonsense.

All of my Hispanic neighbors are upset that Bush is not doing something to put a stop to the illegals.

Especially those having crossed the border legally.

You see the entrenched home owing Hispanics are tired of paying high taxes. Tired of illegals taking advantage of some politicians PC desires.


32 posted on 03/05/2005 4:09:06 PM PST by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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"DONALD RUMSFELD, SECRETARY OF DEFENSE: The risk is that some of these human-smuggling routes into our country from this hemisphere could be used just as easily for terrorists. "

Taken out of context. He was talking about the route from South and Central America into Mexico. Once in Mexico terrorists can easily use fraudulently obtain Mexican IDs to fly, drive, rail, or sail into the United States at official border crossing checkpoints.

Trying to stop terrorists at the American border is irresponsible. They must be stopped long before they get here, preferably in Afganistan, Iraq, Europe, Canada, Mexico and Central America.

33 posted on 03/05/2005 4:46:52 PM PST by bayourod (Unless we get over 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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Don't you get it? It doesn't matter how many American girls are raped or how many are murdered. It just doesn't matter we are asking to much for American politicans to stand up for Americans when they are being murdered and raped by people from Mexico. It just doesn't matter man? don't you get it?

Even the so called conservatives in the (small "r") republican party are bending over backwards to help the illegals.
34 posted on 03/05/2005 7:01:20 PM PST by DixieOklahoma (Since 2004: real American voters = 1, dead democrats = 0)
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That of course is the bottom line. There has always been that number of capitalists without concience of what their destruction brings to their fellow Americans. In the 1800's they were called carpetbaggers.

And instead of supporting life in America, so there would be 40 million new workers walking around, who were instead slaughtered, these people support desecrating the country by allowing all of mexico's trash to walk accross. Heck they don't even have to hop a fence, I wish we would help these people out and create an express lane like they have at the airport. that way they could just hop on and not even have to walk accross. I'm sure Bush is drawing up the plans right now.
35 posted on 03/05/2005 7:06:00 PM PST by DixieOklahoma (Since 2004: real American voters = 1, dead democrats = 0)
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